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    Red Sox sign Victorino to 3 year $39M deal

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    3 years, $38MM
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    Please jinx this ray:

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    I just saw this being discussed in the Off-Season thread. Feel free to move if it's decided it doesn't need it's own thread.

    3/38 is high in my estimation.
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    Oh, please no. Most of his value is obtained from being a CF who can steal 40 bases. He's 32 years old. Even if we moved Ellsbury to put Victorino in center, I still wouldn't want him.
    310 wOBA, 94 wRC+? Even with defense, still not worth $40M.

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    It seems to me that this is an "Ellsbury won't be here long" signing.

    By signing Victorino you've got somebody that's very much a CF capable of playing the corners.
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    I think we are all forgetting Victorino was a 5.9 war player in 2011. He just had a down year last year.

    If he plays like he did last year, then yes, he is no where near 38 million in value. But if he plays somewhat like he did in 2011 for the next 2 years and is a 3.5-5 War player, than he is worth it. In the last year he will be 35, can't hope of much other than an average OF type guy. But he would still be worth it if he can preform like he did in 2011.

    Would love to get him in center field, trade ellsbury for a young, cost controlled SP, And then hopefully sign another OF to a short 1 or 2 year contract until some of the prospects come up.

    Seems like a good, medium risk-high reward, type move to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lackeyfan41 View Post
    I think we are all forgetting Victorino was a 5.9 war player in 2011. He just had a down year last year.

    If he plays like he did last year, then yes, he is no where near 38 million in value. But if he plays somewhat like he did in 2011 for the next 2 years and is a 3.5-5 War player, than he is worth it. In the last year he will be 35, can't hope of much other than an average OF type guy. But he would still be worth it if he can preform like he did in 2011.

    Would love to get him in center field, trade ellsbury for a young, cost controlled SP, And then hopefully sign another OF to a short 1 or 2 year contract until some of the prospects come up.

    Seems like a good, medium risk-high reward, type move to me.
    2011 was a complete outlier year for him. He's a career .269/.338/.418 hitter, coming off the worst year of his career, and hes 32. This would be a huge overpay.

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    What an overpay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Station 13 View Post
    What an overpay.
    I have never, not one time, seen you say something positive or non contrarian.

    Also, your #swag thing is as queer as a football bat.
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    Victorino for 3 years would be a mistake.

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    He was pretty bad against RHP last year, so it's not helping our problem against RHP, what with Gomes also in the OF.

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    Yeah wtf are they doing giving him almost $13M per year for 3 seasons. Bad.

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    I have a feeling Ellsbury is getting traded sooner than we think. This move confuses me.

    If they still pursue Swisher after this then I'm going to assume Ells is getting dealt this winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomar View Post
    I have a feeling Ellsbury is getting traded sooner than we think. This move confuses me.

    If they still pursue Swisher after this then I'm going to assume Ells is getting dealt this winter.
    I can't help but wonder if this means a deal is in place for Ells..
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