Yankees, Youkilis Having Discussions

[Rylinkus]

I love how the Yanks dont want to spend money but are willing to offer this bum 12 mil for one year. I know the one year is the only reason why but I would rather see Nunez play 3rd.

Which would be fine if he could handle making routine plays....

[RCSownsU]

As if Nunez is a HR hitter....

He has nothing to back his argument but he continues to make himself look foolish. It's quite hilarious.

[daytoner500]

Who cares how many home runs Gardner has, he isn't a power hitter. Which is fine.

If you think he sucks, then Nunez sucks too. Nunez doesn't have better numbers; in fact, most of his numbers are worse then Gardner.

Again your basing your argument off home runs. And now RBI? Lead off hitters and 9 hole hitters aren't your RBI hitters, they are guys that get on base. Create a base steal threat, which Gardner does better in those two categories as well.

Having a sports debate is useless because you bring absolutely nothing to the table other then your hate for Brett Gardner which is making you biased.

Nunez has a whopping 5 home runs in 338 plate appearances
Gardner hit 7 home runs with 558 plate apperances.

So Nunez hardly has more power.

Gardner has no upside, Nunez could have an upside. Gardner has played more than Nunez and is older, you've seen the best of Gardner i guy that can't hit the ball out of the infield... he's not a third outfielder period, the guys is a pinch runner/defensive replacement...

[bronxbombers88]

Which would be fine if he could handle making routine plays....

I didnt say I wanted him there but I will take pretty much anyone over youk

[RCSownsU]

Gardner has no upside, Nunez could have an upside. Gardner has played more than Nunez and is older, you've seen the best of Gardner i guy that can't hit the ball out of the infield... he's not a third outfielder period, the guys is a pinch runner/defensive replacement...

Yeah, he can't hit the ball out of the infield so you say, yet he had 19 doubles and 8 triples and 7 home runs in 2011. I guess those weren't hit out of the infield?

That was your argument yesterday when comparing Gardner to Ichiro.

I'm just going to ignore you, you really have no clue. You have nothing to back up any statement you make.

[Rylinkus]

Gardner has no upside, Nunez could have an upside. Gardner has played more than Nunez and is older, you've seen the best of Gardner i guy that can't hit the ball out of the infield... he's not a third outfielder period, the guys is a pinch runner/defensive replacement...

No one is arguing potential. But Gardner is the better hitter, regardless of what anecdotal arguments you back it up with. He's also an ELITE defensive player and Nunez is below average. So until Nunez actually figures out how to play baseball at the MLB level, he's not going to start on an MLB team.

[Rylinkus]

I didnt say I wanted him there but I will take pretty much anyone over youk

I'd take Adams at this point. I preferred Reynolds. But Nunez couldn't handle fielding his natural position. I'm sure he's not likely to be better at one he's less familiar with.

[daytoner500]

Yeah, he can't hit the ball out of the infield so you say, yet he had 19 doubles and 8 triples and 7 home runs in 2011. I guess those weren't hit out of the infield?

That was your argument yesterday when comparing Gardner to Ichiro.

I'm just going to ignore you, you really have no clue. You have nothing to back up any statement you make.

K, what has he done besides 2011??? your telling me that this guy is a third outfielder??? I mean i know you have a man crush on him and all.. but give me a break

[daytoner500]

and your also going to tell me that you rather have Gardner up in a clutch situation over Ichiro??

[RCSownsU]

K, what has he done besides 2011??? your telling me that this guy is a third outfielder??? I mean i know you have a man crush on him and all.. but give me a break

Really?? That's all you can come back with, Gardner has only been a full time major leaguer for 2 years.

In 2010 he had 20 doubles 7 triples and 5 home runs. Guess those didn't make it out of the infield either?

Your hate for him is disturbing.

Your going on my ignore list. Later Hater.

[Rylinkus]

and your also going to tell me that you rather have Gardner up in a clutch situation over Ichiro??

Personally, I would. You're looking at the best 2 months Ichiro has had in the last couple of years expecting he's the guy of old. Ichiro isn't that guy anymore. And while he's clearly a much better player than Gardner in his prime, Ichiro is in pretty significant decline now. If you paid any attention to him over the last 2 seasons you'd see he's fading as fast as ARod.

[daytoner500]

No one is arguing potential. But Gardner is the better hitter, regardless of what anecdotal arguments you back it up with. He's also an ELITE defensive player and Nunez is below average. So until Nunez actually figures out how to play baseball at the MLB level, he's not going to start on an MLB team.

above average fielder ELITE?? no way sorry, can't give him that.. all I'm saying is that Gardner reached his peak and it's not promising, hey i'd rather not have him, Ichiro start at all, but with our budget now, we have to deal with it..

[daytoner500]

Personally, I would. You're looking at the best 2 months Ichiro has had in the last couple of years expecting he's the guy of old. Ichiro isn't that guy anymore. And while he's clearly a much better player than Gardner in his prime, Ichiro is in pretty significant decline now. If you paid any attention to him over the last 2 seasons you'd see he's fading as fast as ARod.

yes he is declining, but he's still dangerous.. has Gardner ever been considered dangerous? they intentionally walked Ichiro in the playoffs because he was hot.. would u ever intentionally walk Gardner in any situation like that??? how could you say that u would rather pitch to Ichiro in a big spot than Gardner?? that's an ignorant comment, however it's your opinion... me on the other hand, i'm pitching to Gardner all day long

[daytoner500]

Really?? That's all you can come back with, Gardner has only been a full time major leaguer for 2 years.

In 2010 he had 20 doubles 7 triples and 5 home runs. Guess those didn't make it out of the infield either?

Your hate for him is disturbing.

Your going on my ignore list. Later Hater.

Hater?? give me a break, its my opinion, I'm entitled to my opinion, you just can't handle the truth softee

[RCSownsU]

above average fielder ELITE?? no way sorry, can't give him that.. all I'm saying is that Gardner reached his peak and it's not promising, hey i'd rather not have him, Ichiro start at all, but with our budget now, we have to deal with it..

Wow you really have no clue.

Defensive WAR :2010 Ranked 1st, 2011 Ranked 8th
Putout's as LF: 2010 Ranked 5th, 2011 Ranked 2nd
Fielding % As LF- 2010 Ranked 2nd, 2011 Ranked 5th
Total Zone Runs as an OF- 2010 Ranked 1st, 2011 Ranked 1st
Total Zone Runs- 2010 Ranked 1st, 2011 Ranked 1st
Total Zone Runs as an LF- 2010 Ranked 1st, 2011 Ranked 1st
Range Factor- 2011- Ranked 2nd

Ranked TOP 3 in all categories defensively as an outfielder. Over the last two years, except twice.

Your right though. He isnt ELITE defensively.