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    Very interesting stuff. Not sure it matters for the most part, because if you have to comeback in the fourth quarter, it probably means you didn't play that well to begin with. But still, there is a definite pattern that can be seen for those who play the toughest opponents at the toughest times of the year. It's nice to have more information about comebacks. I would have never known Eli Manning's comebacks stood out so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hickenlooper View Post
    Very interesting stuff. Not sure it matters for the most part, because if you have to comeback in the fourth quarter, it probably means you didn't play that well to begin with. But still, there is a definite pattern that can be seen for those who play the toughest opponents at the toughest times of the year. It's nice to have more information about comebacks. I would have never known Eli Manning's comebacks stood out so much.
    That's the key IMO. It's certainly not an exact science b/c as a comeback could indicate the QB didn't play well early just as a QB's stats could be padded going against a prevent defense b/c trails. The toughest opponents is the key.
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    Are they talking about QBs going up against the top teams in the league or the top defenses in the league? Because there's a huge difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack of Blades View Post
    Are they talking about QBs going up against the top teams in the league or the top defenses in the league? Because there's a huge difference.
    Looks like the top teams. Respectfully, a top team might not have a top defense but a top team likely isn't going into the nickle late as the top QB's are winning those games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d79cheese View Post
    The NYG start of 6-2 almost every year. If you want money, bet the Giants in October where Eli is 27-5. Avoid the rest unless it's late Dec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d79cheese View Post
    you'd think the clutchest qb in NFL history wouldn't fail down the stretch almost every season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FortDetroit View Post
    you'd think the clutchest qb in NFL history wouldn't fail down the stretch almost every season.
    In case you just started watching football and still dance between whether clutch is real or not as quickly as jumping teams, no QB wins ever year but QB's like Brady and Eli Manning do have multiple Superbowl rings. In fact, Eli has two Superbowl MVP's on his resume and the strength of schedule throughout his career speaks for itself and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSPORTS98 View Post
    In case you just started watching football and still dance between whether clutch is real or not as quickly as jumping teams, no QB wins ever year but QB's like Brady and Eli Manning do have multiple Superbowl rings. In fact, Eli has two Superbowl MVP's on his resume and the strength of schedule throughout his career speaks for itself and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FortDetroit View Post
    Oh, ok. Sorry sire.
    You shouldn't be so fickle. The guy who couldn't win a playoff game three of his five playoff appearances, and missed the playoffs three of other eight years he's been the starter, is the clutchiest QB in like ever. Derp. Obviously, a nine year vet should only be judged on his 4th and 8th years and not his entire body of work. Fickle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ring91013144043 View Post
    Obviously, a nine year vet should only be judged on his 4th and 8th years and not his entire body of work. Fickle.
    but Ben should be judged by his rapes b/c that's not his full body of work. So much for understanding the cold card fact. The same culprits, just a another thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSPORTS98 View Post
    but Ben should be judged by his rapes b/c that's not his full body of work. So much for understanding the cold card fact. The same culprits, just a another thread.
    Such a fickle response. Your homerism backs you into a corner and someone points out your hypocrisy, so you grasp at straws and bring up a topic completely random and irrelevant. When someone attempts to change subjects is when they know they have been proven wrong in the discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ring91013144043 View Post
    Such a fickle response. Your homerism backs you into a corner and someone points out your hypocrisy, so you grasp at straws and bring up a topic completely random and irrelevant. When someone attempts to change subjects is when they know they have been proven wrong in the discussion.
    ditto -

    disregarding two Superbowl MVP's really makes sense . . . to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYSPORTS98 View Post
    ditto -

    disregarding two Superbowl MVP's really makes sense . . . to you.
    You really have to stop thinking that everyone is as unintelligent as you are. We don't pick and choose particular years. I'm not picking and choosing the years Eli failed, I'm just informing you that they happened. Because you disregard every year Eli didn't win a playoff game. No one else disregards a single thing, you're alone with that.

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