Quote Originally Posted by Patman View Post
Uhm what a surprise that Bethesda can't create decent gameplay, they try since Daggerfall and fail in every iteration. Honestly never could get over the bad fighting in Elder Scrolls games. Fallout 3 with VATS is ok. If you want fallout with good gameplay 1+2 will do that.
Well New Vegas was made by Black Isle members that were part of the obsidion crew. Its much better IMO.

1+2 are great, but they are a totally different genre from what the OP was talking about.