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    Offense genius D'Antoni

    If Kobe call him a genius in drawing and offense, how come he cant execute an entry pass to D12 for a high low and back without committing defenders sliding for double teams? His rotations are questionable and decision to bench Hill and more playing time for Jamison because of his shooting skill is not working most of the time. Hill is a better defender and rebounder.If Mike is only relying on Nash return for this team to bounce then he should not be a coach especially for this core of players.

    I find the coaching style of PJ boring because he seldom stands where he sits but it gets us rings. If Jim doesn't like him then perhaps he should just ask Bernie to coach till MD is healthy while waiting for Nash to returns. WE can't afford to be within the bubble of .500 that eventually not making the playoffs.:cry:

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    Preach brother this **** is getting horrible my poor lakers

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    I started rolling my eyes and tuning out D'Antoni after last night's loss to the Magic when he was arguing that the team was simply not athletic enough. When the coach is laying blame via the media after only a few weeks on the job...you can tell that this is isn't going to go well. Trades at this point of the season are past...the Lakers need to make it with the players they have now and it is the job of the head coach to create winning basketball with the players he is given.

    Everyone knew that the Lakers were old and slow when Brown was around...and that is why Phil was a logical and preferred choice to replace him. The triangle may not be as flashy as D'Antoni's way of shooting the lights out, but it worked with that the Lakers have to work with...two supreme centers, aged - yet very skilled players in Kobe, Nash, Metta, and Antawn.

    D'Antoni knew what he was signing onto with the Lakers, but he cannot make excuses that HIS system won't work because Pau cannot run the floor with two knees with tendonitis. Or that everything will be better once Nash returns. Or that not playing Jordan Hill and Jodie Meeks is because they don't fit into his player rotations...despite the energy and production they bring.

    The players that are needed to win a championship this season are on this team. But the Lakers FO underestimated that to win championships, you need leadership that knows how to get there. Brown rode the coat-tails of LeBron. He wilted upon being revealed as a great coach for a bad team...but ill-prepared to coach a team assembled to win NOW. D'Antoni himself has done nothing as a coach of the Nuggets, Suns, and Knicks...despite his entertaining run and gun offensive system. I think his pattern is to blame the players when his system doesn't work. In addition, you cannot seriously expect Dwight or even Nash or Antawn to instantly bring a veteran championship mentality to the Lakers because simply they don't have the skills to lead by example...because have never won a championship. For a team with this extraordinary skill and talent...you need a coach that has been to a few rodeos, both as a player and as a coach...and that coach should have been Phil Jackson.

    The more that Phil Jackson has been gone, the more that I respect him as an amazing academic of the game as well as its personalities. His ability to deal with today's NBA egos (especially an ego like Kobe) alone is vital...and that is something that Brown and D'Antoni has yet to show with success in their past tenures. Dwight can be a class clown all he wants, but that is a personality that does not win rings. To be a champion, you need to have a taste for blood and an endless sense of urgency to will yourself to be better than your opponent. Just the fact that Dwight cannot make his free throws and clowns for the cameras in the pregame interviews just shows how much of a man-child he really is. Phil would give him some books, get into his head, and make him a man....show him that the mental skills are paramount when even world-class physical skills only go so far.

    I don't know...I am not looking to sell on this team...but after the Brown clusterflock, the Pacer loss, the Nuggets win, and now the Magic loss...this team is clearly losing its momentum and wilting under the high expectations. The FO was smart to let Brown go after the horrible start, but they hired the wrong replacement coach with D'Antoni. It should have been Phil Jackson for a year or two with a protege being trained to take over and carry on the legacy. Hell...Bernie would have been a better choice because he just let the players play.

    D'Antoni is the coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, but this isn't Phoenix...he needs to work some magic fast or otherwise this team is doomed for this season and the franchise will suffer for years if Dwight chooses to walk.

    2012-2013 Lakers Basketball...this is bananas!
    Last edited by mOrphosis; 12-03-2012 at 03:11 PM.

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    He likes athletic guys, he needs to adjust to what he's got. This team has high bball iq and he needs to use that like bernie bickerstaff, just let 'em play and draw players when needed.

    the starters dont need to run a system, his bench does.

    when nash gets back, he'd be better off coming off the bench and letting blake or morris be the starter.

    Nash + Meeks + Ebanks + Jamison + Gasol/Howard/Hill will be a sweet 2nd unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mOrphosis View Post
    I started rolling my eyes and tuning out D'Antoni after last night's loss to the Magic when he was arguing that the team was simply not athletic enough. When the coach is laying blame via the media after only a few weeks on the job...you can tell that this is isn't going to go well. Trades at this point of the season are past...the Lakers need to make it with the players they have now and it is the job of the head coach to create winning basketball with the players he is given.

    Everyone knew that the Lakers were old and slow when Brown was around...and that is why Phil was a logical and preferred choice to replace him. The triangle may not be as flashy as D'Antoni's way of shooting the lights out, but it worked with that the Lakers have to work with...two supreme centers, aged - yet very skilled players in Kobe, Nash, Metta, and Antawn.

    D'Antoni knew what he was signing onto with the Lakers, but he cannot make excuses that HIS system won't work because Pau cannot run the floor with two knees with tendonitis. Or that everything will be better once Nash returns. Or that not playing Jordan Hill and Jodie Meeks is because they don't fit into his player rotations...despite the energy and production they bring.

    The players that are needed to win a championship this season are on this team. But the Lakers FO underestimated that to win championships, you need leadership that knows how to get there. Brown rode the coat-tails of LeBron. He wilted upon being revealed as a great coach for a bad team...but ill-prepared to coach a team assembled to win NOW. D'Antoni himself has done nothing as a coach of the Nuggets, Suns, and Knicks...despite his entertaining run and gun offensive system. I think his pattern is to blame the players when his system doesn't work. In addition, you cannot seriously expect Dwight or even Nash or Antawn to instantly bring a veteran championship mentality to the Lakers because simply they don't have the skills to lead by example...because have never won a championship. For a team with this extraordinary skill and talent...you need a coach that has been to a few rodeos, both as a player and as a coach...and that coach should have been Phil Jackson.

    The more that Phil Jackson has been gone, the more that I respect him as an amazing academic of the game as well as its personalities. His ability to deal with today's NBA egos (especially an ego like Kobe) alone is vital...and that is something that Brown and D'Antoni has yet to show with success in their past tenures. Dwight can be a class clown all he wants, but that is a personality that does not win rings. To be a champion, you need to have a taste for blood and an endless sense of urgency to will yourself to be better than your opponent. Just the fact that Dwight cannot make his free throws and clowns for the cameras in the pregame interviews just shows how much of a man-child he really is. Phil would give him some books, get into his head, and make him a man....show him that the mental skills are paramount when even world-class physical skills only go so far.

    I don't know...I am not looking to sell on this team...but after the Brown clusterflock, the Pacer loss, the Nuggets win, and now the Magic loss...this team is clearly losing its momentum and wilting under the high expectations. The FO was smart to let Brown go after the horrible start, but they hired the wrong replacement coach with D'Antoni. It should have been Phil Jackson for a year or two with a protege being trained to take over and carry on the legacy. Hell...Bernie would have been a better choice because he just let the players play.

    D'Antoni is the coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, but this isn't Phoenix...he needs to work some magic fast or otherwise this team is doomed for this season and the franchise will suffer for years if Dwight chooses to walk.

    2012-2013 Lakers Basketball...this is bananas!
    Amen brotha. D'antoni is not a bad coach, but he said it himself...this team is not athletic enough for the offense he wants to run. BUT WHY IN THE HELL DID HE TAKE ON THE JOB?! Jimbaco strikes again!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by QUICKTRADE View Post
    If Kobe call him a genius in drawing and offense, how come he cant execute an entry pass to D12 for a high low and back without committing defenders sliding for double teams? His rotations are questionable and decision to bench Hill and more playing time for Jamison because of his shooting skill is not working most of the time. Hill is a better defender and rebounder.If Mike is only relying on Nash return for this team to bounce then he should not be a coach especially for this core of players.

    I find the coaching style of PJ boring because he seldom stands where he sits but it gets us rings. If Jim doesn't like him then perhaps he should just ask Bernie to coach till MD is healthy while waiting for Nash to returns. WE can't afford to be within the bubble of .500 that eventually not making the playoffs.:cry:
    Even if we make it to the playoff I just dont see the lakers winning with this coach.

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    If Pringles think that Nash is going to fix all. We are messed up..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8kobe24 View Post
    Amen brotha. D'antoni is not a bad coach, but he said it himself...this team is not athletic enough for the offense he wants to run. BUT WHY IN THE HELL DID HE TAKE ON THE JOB?! Jimbaco strikes again!!!
    Then he is not a good coach, because he has only one style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8kobe24 View Post
    Amen brotha. D'antoni is not a bad coach, but he said it himself...this team is not athletic enough for the offense he wants to run. BUT WHY IN THE HELL DID HE TAKE ON THE JOB?! Jimbaco strikes again!!!
    ffs, leave jim buss alone, he gets nash and dwight and you praise him, he hires a stubborn coach you get on him.

    btw, no decision is made without his father AND mitch kupchak signing off on it.

    how hard is this to understand? he's not the owner, his father is, he is in charge of basketball operations but no deal gets done cuz of the will of one person, you think Jim Buss has owned teh team for 20+ years, one multiple championships and be a patsy? c'mon...

    btw, i'm sure D'Antoni got the team cuz its hard to turn down a job like this, it's the Lakers, nash, kobe, gasol, and howard. He's never had this type of talent, ever.

    Hes starting to adjust but i think he needs to get a rotation set (jodie meeks only playing about 10 minutes when he got 20+ the night before) learn to use his 2 awesome post players within the flow of his offense (quite easy imo but we'll see if he'll do it) AND get Nash back.

    Look at the Steelers, great talent but they're a shell of themselves without their quarterback, same for the lakers and d'antoni, Nash is the QB and the Lakers wont be at their best until he's back.

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    Jimbaco is the one making the douche calls . Phil is the one, but he can not stand his charisma and grestness. Besides he is f his sister.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mOrphosis View Post
    I started rolling my eyes and tuning out D'Antoni after last night's loss to the Magic when he was arguing that the team was simply not athletic enough. When the coach is laying blame via the media after only a few weeks on the job...you can tell that this is isn't going to go well. Trades at this point of the season are past...the Lakers need to make it with the players they have now and it is the job of the head coach to create winning basketball with the players he is given.

    Everyone knew that the Lakers were old and slow when Brown was around...and that is why Phil was a logical and preferred choice to replace him. The triangle may not be as flashy as D'Antoni's way of shooting the lights out, but it worked with that the Lakers have to work with...two supreme centers, aged - yet very skilled players in Kobe, Nash, Metta, and Antawn.

    D'Antoni knew what he was signing onto with the Lakers, but he cannot make excuses that HIS system won't work because Pau cannot run the floor with two knees with tendonitis. Or that everything will be better once Nash returns. Or that not playing Jordan Hill and Jodie Meeks is because they don't fit into his player rotations...despite the energy and production they bring.

    The players that are needed to win a championship this season are on this team. But the Lakers FO underestimated that to win championships, you need leadership that knows how to get there. Brown rode the coat-tails of LeBron. He wilted upon being revealed as a great coach for a bad team...but ill-prepared to coach a team assembled to win NOW. D'Antoni himself has done nothing as a coach of the Nuggets, Suns, and Knicks...despite his entertaining run and gun offensive system. I think his pattern is to blame the players when his system doesn't work. In addition, you cannot seriously expect Dwight or even Nash or Antawn to instantly bring a veteran championship mentality to the Lakers because simply they don't have the skills to lead by example...because have never won a championship. For a team with this extraordinary skill and talent...you need a coach that has been to a few rodeos, both as a player and as a coach...and that coach should have been Phil Jackson.

    The more that Phil Jackson has been gone, the more that I respect him as an amazing academic of the game as well as its personalities. His ability to deal with today's NBA egos (especially an ego like Kobe) alone is vital...and that is something that Brown and D'Antoni has yet to show with success in their past tenures. Dwight can be a class clown all he wants, but that is a personality that does not win rings. To be a champion, you need to have a taste for blood and an endless sense of urgency to will yourself to be better than your opponent. Just the fact that Dwight cannot make his free throws and clowns for the cameras in the pregame interviews just shows how much of a man-child he really is. Phil would give him some books, get into his head, and make him a man....show him that the mental skills are paramount when even world-class physical skills only go so far.

    I don't know...I am not looking to sell on this team...but after the Brown clusterflock, the Pacer loss, the Nuggets win, and now the Magic loss...this team is clearly losing its momentum and wilting under the high expectations. The FO was smart to let Brown go after the horrible start, but they hired the wrong replacement coach with D'Antoni. It should have been Phil Jackson for a year or two with a protege being trained to take over and carry on the legacy. Hell...Bernie would have been a better choice because he just let the players play.

    D'Antoni is the coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, but this isn't Phoenix...he needs to work some magic fast or otherwise this team is doomed for this season and the franchise will suffer for years if Dwight chooses to walk.

    2012-2013 Lakers Basketball...this is bananas!
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