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    Prime Jordan or Prime Shaq 1 Year Rental

    Who would you take to build a team around to win a championship for that year?

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    Prime Jordan.
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    I think it is easier to compare MJ's vs Shaq's the best though.

    1. Because they played pretty much in the same era.
    2. They had the same amount of games in the season and playoffs to play.

    I believe Jordan wins this because:

    1. Had the higher PER in the season, playoffs and finals
    2. Had the higher win shares in the season and playoffs

    MJ in the season = 20.30 Win Shares. Shaq = 18.65
    MJ in the season = 31.63 PER, Shaq = 30.65


    MJ in the playoffs = 4.77 Win Share, Shaq = 4.67
    MJ in the playoffs = 32.04 PER, Shaq = 30.45


    MJ in the finals = 31.5 PER and Shaq = 31.1


    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...Performances-7
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...Performances-8

    So they were pretty much neck and neck, but I'd give MJ the advantage based on the things mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JordansBulls View Post
    I think it is easier to compare MJ's vs Shaq's the best though.

    1. Because they played pretty much in the same era.
    2. They had the same amount of games in the season and playoffs to play.

    I believe Jordan wins this because:

    1. Had the higher PER in the season, playoffs and finals
    2. Had the higher win shares in the season and playoffs

    MJ in the season = 20.30 Win Shares. Shaq = 18.65
    MJ in the season = 31.63 PER, Shaq = 30.65


    MJ in the playoffs = 4.77 Win Share, Shaq = 4.67
    MJ in the playoffs = 32.04 PER, Shaq = 30.45


    MJ in the finals = 31.5 PER and Shaq = 31.1


    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...Performances-7
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...Performances-8

    So they were pretty much neck and neck, but I'd give MJ the advantage based on the things mentioned.
    Excellent post!

    I chose Shaq because of the easy scoring that he gets and the reason being that I don't think anyone was more dominant than Shaq in his prime, but what you mentioned here is very compelling and it proves that is not a slam dunk to just say Jordan because he's Jordan and he's the greatest. I mean as far as careers go and winning championships... then it obviously isn't as close.

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    Shaq was really great in his prime but there were ways to limit his effectiveness at times (deny him the ball, force him to shoot free throws). Jordan did not need anyone to set him up. For that reason it is Jordan in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinattle View Post
    Excellent post!

    I chose Shaq because of the easy scoring that he gets and the reason being that I don't think anyone was more dominant than Shaq in his prime, but what you mentioned here is very compelling and it proves that is not a slam dunk to just say Jordan because he's Jordan and he's the greatest. I mean as far as careers go and winning championships... then it obviously isn't as close.
    Jordan was as productive if not more so and as efficient. But also he wasn't a liability on the floor especially not in crunch time. You could hack a Shaq and throw him off his game, you couldnt do that with MJ. Also MJ could get the ball whenever he wanted while Shaq needed to depend on others to get him the ball unless of course you believe he can bring the ball up the floor in a tight situation.
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    In todays league Shaq 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordansBulls View Post
    I think it is easier to compare MJ's vs Shaq's the best though.

    1. Because they played pretty much in the same era.
    2. They had the same amount of games in the season and playoffs to play.

    I believe Jordan wins this because:

    1. Had the higher PER in the season, playoffs and finals
    2. Had the higher win shares in the season and playoffs

    MJ in the season = 20.30 Win Shares. Shaq = 18.65
    MJ in the season = 31.63 PER, Shaq = 30.65


    MJ in the playoffs = 4.77 Win Share, Shaq = 4.67
    MJ in the playoffs = 32.04 PER, Shaq = 30.45


    MJ in the finals = 31.5 PER and Shaq = 31.1


    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...Performances-7
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...Performances-8

    So they were pretty much neck and neck, but I'd give MJ the advantage based on the things mentioned.
    Peak/Prime Shaq's Impact defensively>Jordan


    Quote Originally Posted by rhymeratic View Post
    Shoot I'd even put up Glen Rice and Mitch Richmond in their prime at or slightly better than James. Even Glenn Robinson who is a forgotten beast.


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    Shaq would **** all over anyone in today's NBA.

    There isn't a single player right now that could body him and keep him out of the paint.

    You put Shaq a peak Shaq on say G-State they might be the best team in the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b@llhog24 View Post
    Peak/Prime Shaq's Impact defensively>Jordan
    No it is not. Shaq never made 1st team all defense and never won DPOY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JordansBulls View Post
    No it is not. Shaq never made 1st team all defense and never won DPOY.


    Quote Originally Posted by rhymeratic View Post
    Shoot I'd even put up Glen Rice and Mitch Richmond in their prime at or slightly better than James. Even Glenn Robinson who is a forgotten beast.


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    Kobe GOAT LOL
    ^Finally got one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordansBulls View Post
    No it is not. Shaq never made 1st team all defense and never won DPOY.
    Eh... he really should have won DPOY in 00.
    Definitely got robbed after leading a rag-tag defensive cast to the best defense in the league.

    Prime Shaq >>> Prime Jordan defensively mostly due to the fact that Shaq was a C and Jordan was a SG but its the truth.

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    Jordan because he can shoot FTs with his eyes closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew32 View Post
    Eh... he really should have won DPOY in 00.
    Definitely got robbed after leading a rag-tag defensive cast to the best defense in the league.

    Prime Shaq >>> Prime Jordan defensively mostly due to the fact that Shaq was a C and Jordan was a SG but its the truth.
    Naw not really, if he was that defensively he should have made 1st team a few times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JordansBulls View Post
    Naw not really, if he was that defensively he should have made 1st team a few times.
    Yeah... except that he should have made 1st team All-D and won the DPOY in 00.

    He led a cast of mostly weak defenders to the best defense in the league while playing in the Wild West.

    Zo led his team to the 7th or 8th best defense while playing with Bruce Bowen in the Weak Sauce East.

    All-Defensive awards have really lost their credibility since over the years so many players have have actually deserved them got shafted and many who blatantly did not deserve them were awarded them.

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