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    Letting DRC Walk would be stupid IMO. He honestly has not been that bad. Granted, yes he's lacked effort sometimes, but who on this team hasn't this year? That's a coaches problem....Todd Bowles is not getting this secondary motivated, which is shocking since he was supposidly a secondary expert when he came here. I digress.

    DRC is a good corner to keep around if he's not going to be too expensive. Aso wouldn't be as bad if his price tag was about 10 million dollars lower either. The safeties are the real problem in this secondary. The scheme doesn't help much either. Get us some NFL level safeties even, and this secondary is much improved. We need a defensive mind in here.

    How about Mike Zimmer for HC??

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    Todd Bowles hasn't been given a proper chance to coach the defense how he's wanted.
    Now that we got rid of that Wide 9 crap he can run his natural calls.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fanofphilly View Post
    Goldson was franchised last year, i forgot about him... hes a big hitter too that can actually cover unlike Coleman...

    But you could say the same about Goldson as you said about Byrd.... if anything I Would think Byrd would want to move more.... Fitzpatrick is not the QB that will get them there LOL...

    Goldson has a much better chance of resigning with his team then Byrd....we wont know until April but we have options out there!
    Well we gotta take the cap into account to. Goldson would probably be a wiser option financially. We need someone like him or Whitner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles4Lyfe View Post
    Todd Bowles hasn't been given a proper chance to coach the defense how he's wanted.
    Now that we got rid of that Wide 9 crap he can run his natural calls.
    cant you say the same about juan?
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    Yes but Bowles had more of a track record than Castillo defensively and many of the complaints about Juan was because everything he called was vanilla and predictable.

    Bowles has at least blitzed more and been able to get us pressure more lately. Things are looking up there he just needs some time now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles4Lyfe View Post
    Yes but Bowles had more of a track record than Castillo defensively and many of the complaints about Juan was because everything he called was vanilla and predictable.

    Bowles has at least blitzed more and been able to get us pressure more lately. Things are looking up there he just needs some time now.
    Although we have been getting more pressure, it can't be ignored that we are giving up double the points per game since the switch.
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    I'm not disputing he's looked bad so far but he's trying with the scheme that's already been implemented prior to him coming here. If he came here, implemented his own system and he was still under performing then its fair to crash all the blame on him.

    But not many coordinators in the league like the Wide 9 and can work around it. That is why we lost Spags.

    Now the Wide 9 is gone, his real test begins so let's see how he does the next 4 weeks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles4Lyfe View Post
    I'm not disputing he's looked bad so far but he's trying with the scheme that's already been implemented prior to him coming here. If he came here, implemented his own system and he was still under performing then its fair to crash all the blame on him.

    But not many coordinators in the league like the Wide 9 and can work around it. That is why we lost Spags.

    Now the Wide 9 is gone, his real test begins so let's see how he does the next 4 weeks.
    We lost spats long, long before we took on the wide 9. We lost Spags because he was offered a coordinator job elsewhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by c_reinert View Post
    We lost spats long, long before we took on the wide 9. We lost Spags because he was offered a coordinator job elsewhere
    How did the eagles lose Steve Sagnuolo long before the eagles brought in Washburn, and the wide-9 when he was still a head coach in St. Louis. So was he thinking while he was the head coach of the Rams I would never take a job back in Philadelphia on Reids staff? Then you say we lost Spags because he was offered a coordinator job elsewhere when we never had him in the first place because Reid never formally fired Castillo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 76erEaglePhils View Post
    How did the eagles lose Steve Sagnuolo long before the eagles brought in Washburn, and the wide-9 when he was still a head coach in St. Louis. So was he thinking while he was the head coach of the Rams I would never take a job back in Philadelphia on Reids staff? Then you say we lost Spags because he was offered a coordinator job elsewhere when we never had him in the first place because Reid never formally fired Castillo.
    I think he means that Spags was here before he went to NY as DC.later to the Rams as HC and now DC with the Saints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teehar View Post
    I think he means that Spags was here before he went to NY as DC.later to the Rams as HC and now DC with the Saints.
    Or maybe he meant Spags chose not to come here to be the D coordinator because of Washburn and the Wide 9? I mean he'd be doing the same thing here that he's doing in NO. Why wouldn't he come back to a familiar organization that gave him his start and elect to go to NO? He ultimately went from being a HC to a DC, so he was taking a demotion anyway. There had to be a motive behind it, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJSF View Post
    I want this team to clean house. Namdi and DRC to me are not the CB's i want on this team next year. They are not winning CB's. They have major flaws. DRC can't tackle. Namdi is slow. Let DRC walk via FA. And certainly cut Namdi. Now for the 2 worse safeties in the league. Get rid of them. Nate Allen is the worse safety in this league. I like Colemans effort, but he is so dumb, he is always blowing coverages and always in the wrong spot. He can be kept as a ST.
    we should try an restructure the deal for namdi an i like drc..if we would clean house theres no chance of winning next year or even the next few years...theres alot worst needs we have like safety, linebacker, and oline

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillybirdblog View Post
    Letting DRC Walk would be stupid IMO. He honestly has not been that bad. Granted, yes he's lacked effort sometimes, but who on this team hasn't this year? That's a coaches problem....Todd Bowles is not getting this secondary motivated, which is shocking since he was supposidly a secondary expert when he came here. I digress.

    DRC is a good corner to keep around if he's not going to be too expensive. Aso wouldn't be as bad if his price tag was about 10 million dollars lower either. The safeties are the real problem in this secondary. The scheme doesn't help much either. Get us some NFL level safeties even, and this secondary is much improved. We need a defensive mind in here.

    How about Mike Zimmer for HC??
    Eagles will most likely make an offer to DRC since they are short at having experienced cbs, but will not over-pay, and my opinion is that DRC will move on and accept better offers. From teams like the Titans,Panthers,Bucs where he'll be returning back to the South (where hes from) it will also be a much better fit for him. I cannot see DRC being the #1 cb in Philly, and being able to handle the media scrutiny that comes along with it. Hes way too sensitive to be honest, not mentally tough enough in my opinion.

    Eagles will need to add at least 1 Proven CB thru free-agancy and there are some good ones out there (Marcus Trufant, Quentin Jammer, Mike Jenkins,Anthony Cason,Agib Talib,Cedric Griffin,Chris Houston,Drayton FLorence,Rashead Mathis,Tracey Porter) and then Draft a relatively highly rated CB Prospect which this 2013 Draft is not real deep in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 76erEaglePhils View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by c_reinert View Post
    We lost spats long, long before we took on the wide 9. We lost Spags because he was offered a coordinator job elsewhere
    How did the eagles lose Steve Sagnuolo long before the eagles brought in Washburn, and the wide-9 when he was still a head coach in St. Louis. So was he thinking while he was the head coach of the Rams I would never take a job back in Philadelphia on Reids staff? Then you say we lost Spags because he was offered a coordinator job elsewhere when we never had him in the first place because Reid never formally fired Castillo.
    We lost Spags from our staff to go to the Giants to be a coordinator in 2009. That was long before we gained the wide 9. Spags leaving philadelphia had nothing to do with Castillo
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    Thanks Roseman and Andy for ignoring the Safety position for so long and letting Asante go.

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