2012-2013 Off-season thread part II

[Nomar]

Never did I say he would match Pena's power. Just that, he would find HIS form going from BOS to TB, much like Pena did. I think he is going to turn out to be a really good player for them. It was only a couple years ago that LAD considered him untouchable.

Still doubt it. He's have to hit like .310 to be an above average 1B

[BGeer091]

Yankees get the exact same draft pick no matter who signs Swisher (well, unless they re-sign him, but I'd put very low odds on that).

Swisher is a higher OBP guy, something I think this lineup has been lacking recently. I'd be fine with it for no more than 4 years.

I agree with Swisher being a good fit because he's a high OBP guy. I think the ideal situation is a 3 year deal for Swisher. I believe a factor in signing Swisher is Brentz. I think they are hesitant to block him.

I think they are going to trade Lavarnway over Salty. I believe he has more value then Salty. He could ultimately help us get a very good pitcher. I'm a huge Lavarnway a Brentz fan, However if you sign Swisher i'd be ok in trading those two together in a deal to acquire a top of the rotation pitcher. I'd love it if it was a deal around a SP(Spec or Doubront) + Brentz, Lavarnway and Marrero for Justin Upton.

Move Swish to LF, Ellsbury in Center and Upton in RF. Thats a very impressive OF. Especially with Gomes, and Kalish as our 4th and 5th outfielders.

[Station 13]

Swisher coming here would only net the Yankees our second round pick. Our first round pick is protected being in the top 9.

They don't get our 2nd rounder, the 2nd rounder is just 'voided'.

[Soxfan85]

Let me ask you guys something. Lets say Josh Hamilton didn't have off field issues. Drugs, Alcohol. Would you still want him not at a big contract? I'm curious since hes of the of biggest FA. My answer would be yes without a question.

[bruins>habs]

With a plethora of catchers in the mix, the Red Sox will field offers for Jarrod Saltalamacchia, tweets Jon Heyman.

if not in a package deal, what he could net us straight up?

[bruins>habs]

Let me ask you guys something. Lets say Josh Hamilton didn't have off field issues. Drugs, Alcohol. Would you still want him not at a big contract? I'm curious since hes of the of biggest FA. My answer would be yes without a question.

yes

[Redsox07Champs]

I don't see where victorino would fit on this lineup...need more middle of the order bats. I can't see him batting anywhere but 7-9. He's a top of the order kind of guy but the top of our order is solidified.

[bagwell368]

Never did I say he would match Pena's power. Just that, he would find HIS form going from BOS to TB, much like Pena did. I think he is going to turn out to be a really good player for them. It was only a couple years ago that LAD considered him untouchable.

Please, check into Loney a bit. He had his best two years as a rookie and soph, once the pitchers got a bead on him, he's dropped every year. See Dave Stapelton for a comp.

He's never going to be an average level MLB 1B with the bat - ever. He barely made it his first two years. He's nothing.

[bagwell368]

I don't see where victorino would fit on this lineup...need more middle of the order bats. I can't see him batting anywhere but 7-9. He's a top of the order kind of guy but the top of our order is solidified.

As a RHH against LHP he most certainly would be fine anywhere in the line-up including leadoff. Being a fine base runner doesn't hurt him there either.

[bagwell368]

With a plethora of catchers in the mix, the Red Sox will field offers for Jarrod Saltalamacchia, tweets Jon Heyman.

if not in a package deal, what he could net us straight up?

straight up, all you get is a MR for him. Screw that. I want a package deal.

[Nomar]

straight up, all you get is a MR for him. Screw that. I want a package deal.

x2

[bagwell368]

Swisher coming here would only net the Yankees our second round pick. Our first round pick is protected being in the top 9.

It's still about #44, that's a nice piece to give to your mortal enemy. Considering getting him won't help us enough to be serious contenders in '13 and likely '14 - why bother?

[bagwell368]

I think they are going to trade Lavarnway over Salty. I believe he has more value then Salty. He could ultimately help us get a very good pitcher. I'm a huge Lavarnway a Brentz fan, However if you sign Swisher i'd be ok in trading those two together in a deal to acquire a top of the rotation pitcher. I'd love it if it was a deal around a SP(Spec or Doubront) + Brentz, Lavarnway and Marrero for Justin Upton.

Move Swish to LF, Ellsbury in Center and Upton in RF. Thats a very impressive OF. Especially with Gomes, and Kalish as our 4th and 5th outfielders.

Salty is a brutal catcher, and a very streaky hitter. Unless Napoli is going to catch a lot, no way we should get rid of Lavarnway unless the deal is can't refuse.

WTH are you talking, paying $5M per for a 4th OF? And we are dealing for Upton? Don't think so.

[Celtic AL]

yeah i rather trade salty in a package deal. Chisox, Mets & indians are the teams i see him going.

[bruins>habs]

It's still about #44, that's a nice piece to give to your mortal enemy. Considering getting him won't help us enough to be serious contenders in '13 and likely '14 - why bother?

this all the way.