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    We flat-out stink!

    I'm sure I'm going to hear it from anyone in Raider Nation who continues
    to wear rose-colored glasses after every embarrassing loss, but there is
    NOTHING rosy or positive about the Oakland Raiders!

    Plain and simple, we stink! We lack every ingredient needed to field a
    competitive team. We lack in so many areas, it's pathetic.

    NO HEART
    NO LEADERSHIP
    NO DESIRE
    NO DIRECTION
    NO IDENTITY
    NO BALLS

    I swear, in my 43 YEARS of bleeding the Silver & Black, I have never
    been so disappointed in our team. especially after all the changes were supposed to get us turned around. Yeah, right!

    We made Weeden look like an All-Pro today, and we made the Browns look
    like a freaking juggernaut! I mean, COME ON! 486 total yards?? In our
    own backyard?? TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE, but unfortunately it is TOTALLY EXPECTED from the Raiders.

    I'll always bleed Silver & Black, but I am ASHAMED AND EMBARRASSED
    to be a Raider fan today.


    FLYING RAIDER COLORS SINCE 1969.

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    Agreed!!!!!!!!!

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    get a real coach.

    anyone who is legit.

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    Amen, it starts with coaching, lets spend money on a proven coach! We never do that, why?? It's not a waste yet we avoid it .. I'll admit it hurts, but I'm used to it. What really hurts is we had two 8-8 seasons, we were headed in the right direction . Then we fire the man who turned our fortunes around to hire another no name first year head coach. I would have supported the firing of hue had we brought in a proven coach, but now I'm convinced it was the worst move this franchise has made in quite some time .

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    ^ Where the hell did these two come from, lol...? 41 posts in 5 years; 11 posts in ~2 years...

    Regardless, I have to agree - this is totally unacceptable.

    I've been content with Allen because I assumed this team would improve. They're not. They're getting worse.

    He's got four days - and four games - to get this thing turned around. If this keeps up, though, I'm not going to want him back next year.

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    Ram fan here ,i live in the bay area its getting so bad the games are being blacked out again smh

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    Yeah, you'll most likely catch grief from those Allen fanatics that swear up and down that we should unquestionably stick with him as our head coach next season; They must enjoy what they have seen so far because if he stays, be ready to witness another pathetic coached team.

    McKinzie should have hired a veteran coach and saved the fans this embarrassment. It is crystal clear, yet some of the guys on this forum neglect to see this because they don't want to switch coaches every year. Well, how has not switching coaches worked out for San Diego?
    Last edited by carolinaraider; 12-02-2012 at 09:06 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinaraider View Post
    Yeah, you'll most likely catch grief from those Allen fanatics that swear up and down that we should unquestionably stick with his as our head coach next season; They must enjoy what they have seen so far because if we stays, be ready to witness another pathetic coached team.
    That phase has passed.

    It's looking 'do or die' as far as Allen is concerned, IMO - the team either gets better, fast, or he's going to need to update his resume and get some excuses together for why the team he was coaching went 3-13.

    Quote Originally Posted by carolinaraider View Post
    McKinzie should have hired a veteran coach and saved the fans this embarrassment. It is crystal clear, yet some of the guys on this forum neglect to see this because they don't want to switch coaches every year. Well, how has not switching coaches worked out for San Diego?
    Stability is the key to a successful franchise. That's indisputable.

    But, keeping that in consideration, it makes no sense to give the franchise 'stability' if you don't have the right head coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shred003 View Post
    That phase has passed.

    It's looking 'do or die' as far as Allen is concerned, IMO - the team either gets better, fast, or he's going to need to update his resume and get some excuses together for why the team he was coaching went 3-13.


    Stability is the key to a successful franchise. That's indisputable.

    But, keeping that in consideration, it makes no sense to give the franchise 'stability' if you don't have the right head coach.
    I agree,

    I'm not trying to give the franchise to a rookie coach. Had we hired a Gruden, or cower I'd say let him work it out because he's proven...We switch coaches constantly because we're cheap and want to hire these no names or rookies to save money... Spend the money an lure me in a good coach. I hate to beat a dead horse but lets bring in chucky!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIDERLIFE View Post
    I'm not trying to give the franchise to a rookie coach. Had we hired a Gruden, or cower I'd say let him work it out because he's proven...We switch coaches constantly because we're cheap and want to hire these no names or rookies to save money... Spend the money an lure me in a good coach. I hate to beat a dead horse but lets bring in chucky!
    We have to hire no name or rookie coaches because no respectable coach will touch us. Part of it is talent and the other part was a history of micro managing the coaches, blaming them when things go wrong and firing them.

    Like it or not now is the time to prove that we can let the front office do its job and give a coach a fair chance. This will help the Raiders long-term. Give Reggie and DA a fair chance and prove to the league that we've changed our ways and if they fail after being given a fair chance, we just might be able to land a top coach, a proven GM, or an assistant that is ready to be a HC.

    This is a full rebuild I know it sucks after a decade of sucking, but we should have done a full rebuild in 2004. It might even get worse next year, but I'm down for trying to rebuild the right way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevj77 View Post
    We have to hire no name or rookie coaches because no respectable coach will touch us. Part of it is talent and the other part was a history of micro managing the coaches, blaming them when things go wrong and firing them.

    Like it or not now is the time to prove that we can let the front office do its job and give a coach a fair chance. This will help the Raiders long-term. Give Reggie and DA a fair chance and prove to the league that we've changed our ways and if they fail after being given a fair chance, we just might be able to land a top coach, a proven GM, or an assistant that is ready to be a HC.

    This is a full rebuild I know it sucks after a decade of sucking, but we should have done a full rebuild in 2004. It might even get worse next year, but I'm down for trying to rebuild the right way.
    it will be much better next year


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    And who would that vet coach have been Carolina? Not trying to be a smart *** I'm legit asking. Also, where would the money to pay a top coach come from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWidow View Post
    And who would that vet coach have been Carolina? Not trying to be a smart *** I'm legit asking. Also, where would the money to pay a top coach come from?
    Gruden, Cowher, Jim Mora, or my personal favorite...Dick LeBeau!

    Really, I would even accept HermEdward, or a college coach for that matter, but someone with some damn knowledge in football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bronxbombers88 View Post
    Where are all you DA supporters now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinaraider View Post
    Gruden, Cowher, Jim Mora, or my personal favorite...Dick LeBeau!

    Really, I would even accept HermEdward, or a college coach for that matter, but someone with some damn knowledge in football.
    Gruden is a pipe dream.

    Herm? HERM?



    No really, who else that is fathomable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWidow View Post
    Loud and proud mr 17 posts



    Gruden is a pipe dream.

    Herm? HERM?



    No really, who else that is fathomable?

    Why us Gruden a pipe dream?

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