This is starting to sound like the San Francisco thing where we weren't going to get Wheeler at all
here's a scouting report from last year by goldstein:
1. Travis díArnaud, C
Drafted/Signed: First round, 2007, Lakewood HS (CA)
2011 Stats: .311/.371/.542 at Double-A (114 G)
Tools Profile: He can hit, has power, and plays solid defense.
Year in Review: díArnaudís ceiling always intrigued scouts, and a healthy season allowed him to put it all together to earn Eastern League MVP honors.
The Good: d'Arnaud has all the tools to be a star player. He has a quick bat, outstanding hand-eye coordination, the ability to hit .280-.300, and the strength to add 25-plus home runs annually. He's very athletic for a catcher with a plus arm, and he moves well behind the plate. He is a 40 runner.
The Bad: d'Arnaud has the potential to be a plus defender, but he still needs to improve his receiving skills and the quickness of his release. He's made some strides in his plate discipline, but it could still use refinement.
Ephemera: d'Arnaud played 17 games as the number-five hitter for Double-A New Hampshire, batting .409/.451/.788 with five home runs.
Perfect World Projection: He could be an All-Star catcher.
Fantasy Impact: Itís rare to find catchers who can hit in the middle of the order.
Path to the Big Leagues: d'Arnaud will enter 2012 as the best catching prospect in the minor leagues. He could put up some huge numbers at Triple-A Las Vegas before getting a look in September.
ETA: Late 2012
I just don't see them trading a guy like that for Dickey. We'll see I guess.
The JPA and Gose route only gets us starters for the next few years. Mind you, the next two years, we'll probably be in 4th place. It gets us quantity for now but NOT quality for the long term. Plus JPA is a .220 hitter, nothing you can't get in the free agent market.
We need to look towards 2014-2015, NOT 2013. We're going to end up in 4th place this season. Just accept it. Make moves for 2014ish and beyond. Don't be short sighted.
Getting TDA gets us a 22 year old top notch catching prospect. He was ranked second in the Eastern League in 2011 behind only Bryce Harper. By the time he's 24, it'll be 2014, and we'll also have our pitchers come up at the same time. That's the route we need to go. Not to "plug-in" holes for 2013, but to give us hope for 2014 and, more importantly, beyond.
Catcher is a problem for us, but I still feel that our biggest problem is our OF.
The guys I'm realistically looking at as a centerpiece in a deal is Syndergaard or Sanchez. Both high ceilings, our future rotation could look sick if we acquired one of those guys. Then you could add a Gose and JPA.
Syndergaard is an absolute stud. Write it down... If your lucky enough to get him your picking up the next zach wheeler type prospect added to your system. Hes awesome and still real young.
Gibbons reaction to the Adam Lind trade
That's a #11 and #83 overall prospect + Gose.
Rays got a lot more for less.