3 teams looking to meet with Mets on Dickey-Rubin post #918

[Cosmic_Canon]

John Harper ‏@NYDNHarper Was told at WMeetings that Mets want Leonys Martin, 24-year old OF, as well as Olt for Dickey. If Rangers now sign Hamilton or Bourne...

John Harper ‏@NYDNHarper BB people say Rangers GM Jon Daniels is one GM who believes in Dickey's knuckleball. And now he's desperate for dominant starter.

Olt + Martin =

Is it feasible that we get Lopez as well?

[vtmet]

Yeah and that turned out real well

I was kind of cracking up laughing as I was typing...

[MetsJets0809]

I think Dickey will be a Ranger by Friday, and Olt and Martin will be Mets. Just a hunch

[lvlheaded]

Olt and Martin would give us 3 huge needs. A top of the order bat, a middle of the order bat, and an outfield. With the Royals GROSSLY over paying for Shields and Davis, Martin and Olt will look like a steal for Texas. It's either Dickey or over pay Sanchez. Do the right thing JD!

[YoungStuna28]

I don't think Sandy is going to sign Pierzinski, another lefty hitting catcher. He seems willing to give Thole the chance to platoon, or at least be the backup. Meanwhile, there are really no good FA options available. IMO, Shoppach flunked his audition. So, when you get right down to it, Arencibia is the best available option, unless Sandy pulls a rabbit out of his hat. J.P. has some pop, hits left handed pitching reasonably well (to the tune of .244 with a .500 SLG last year) and is under team control through 2016. He's our guy.

Otherwise, your lineup looks OK (I like the Ross idea too) except that I think Olt would spend at least the first half of the season in Las Vegas, while Nieuwenhuis and Hairston (who I still believe Sandy will sign) share right field.

Except AJ is a lefty catcher that can actually hit.

I'd keep Thole in AAA and use Recker as the back-up then. JP will not be a Met if we deal with Texas. We don't really have anything to offer.

Olt is already 24, so I think it's time for him to show what he's got in the big leagues. He did very well in AA Round Rock and hitting in Vagas proves nothing. I'd take Hairston back for the right price, but I'd want Ross as well.

[YoungStuna28]

Martin sounds like a very valuable up the middle player.

This team needs as many talented all around ballplayers as it can get. They need to get away from the world of infinite platoon players.

Agreed. We have too many Murphys on the Mets, we need players with big tools and ability. In this case, Martin with speed and arm, and Olt with power and arm. I really hope this materializes.

[dunbummin]

They are in win-now mode. They don't want prospects. Some Toronto fan made that sure to me.

True. But assuming they don't get Dickey, I think they's deal Arencibia for Gee straight up. Might even do it for Familia or Mejia and a lower level prospect.

If we can make a satisfactory deal with Texas, I'd love to see Alderson offer a good package to Toronto and get Arncibia along with Emilio Bonifacio.

Bonifacio - LF (S)
Murphy - 2B (L)
Wright - 3B (R)
Davis - 1B (L)
Hairston - RF (R) platoon with Nieuwenhuis (L)
Martin - CF (L)
Arencibia - C (R)
Tejada - SS (R)

If Martin takes off and shows he is ready to hit major league pitching well, move him into the leadoff spot.

[YoungStuna28]

Yeah but they could easily roll with Buck as the starter and then call up D'Arnaud by midseason, or by June. That's the plan regardless. I don't think JPA vs Buck is that different in their eyes for this year besides JPA's upside. If they were getting prospects they thought could help them, they might move him.

The idea apparently is to play JPA, and then let D'Arnaud take over some of the duties at some point.

[Daaaarryyl]

The Blue Jays don't want prospects so scratch that idea.

At that point, I'd just sign AJ Pierzynski and Kelly Shoppach in a platoon since we'd have money to spend and no one to really spend it on.

We could sign Cody Ross as well.

CF-Martin(L)
2B-Murphy(L)
3B-Wright(R)
1B-Davis(L)
LF-Ross(R)
C-AJ(L)
RF-Olt(R)
SS-Tejada(R)

4 righties and 4 lefties. Very balanced. We can trade off some guys like Kirk for whatever needs we have.

I like the way you think. Also could use Familia in the pen as well as deal Kirk (like you mentioned) and Duda to bring in some live arms for the pen.

[Daaaarryyl]

I don't think Sandy is going to sign Pierzinski, another lefty hitting catcher. He seems willing to give Thole the chance to platoon, or at least be the backup.

I have concerns with signing AJ but him batting lefthanded is not one of them.

And if while discussing signing him Sandy even brings up Thole he should be fired on the spot.

[YoungStuna28]

I like the way you think. Also could use Familia in the pen as well as deal Kirk (like you mentioned) and Duda to bring in some live arms for the pen.

Thanks. It all falls on whatever they do with Dickey. The strategy would change dramtically if he stays. They would still need to find 2-3 starting outfielders and a catcher, not to mention pen arms. I find it hard to believe they'll fill in all those holes through the FA market. Hopefully something like my scenario plays out.

[VendettaRed07]

Honestly, if the best we are gonna get for Dickey is Olt, then I would rather just keep him. Im not up for trading a legit star for a role player. We should trade role players for role players if thats what we plan on doing. We missed our chance by not trading Reyes or Wright for the kind of future stud bat impact player.

Trade Gee and Flores for the best fielders we can possibly get with them.

[kyubi256]

Dickey and Niese are now the best pitchers in the market. So they will need to overpay for either. Great news!

[YoungStuna28]

Olt, a role player? He has an inpact power bat and a very good arm. He could become a role player because no prospect is a guarentee, but that is why I want Martin as well.

[VendettaRed07]

Olt, a role player? He has an inpact power bat and a very good arm. He could become a role player because no prospect is a guarentee, but that is why I want Martin as well.

Yeah, I did underrate him a bit there, its late and I'm pretty salty about the rays getting Myers still hah.

But I dunno I just don't feel like this is a gotta do it can't miss trade. His defense and how it will be in outfield is just too big of a questionmark to be really excited about it. If we get another promising player along with him that plays a great outfield and has a good bat ill probably warm up to it.