However, longevity is a rule with knuckleballers who had success at the MLB level.Originally Posted by metswon69
Joe Niekro might be more like RA Dickey than any of the others -- to the best of my knowledge. If I recall correctly, Joe threw his fastball regularly. Joe threw about 3800 professional innings until the age of 43, and his career started going south at the 3300 IP bench mark. R.A. is at 2300 professional innings presently. Each situation is unique, but this is one reason why I keep saying R.A. has 1000+ innings left in his arm. What else is there to go on in order to speculate?
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12-03-2012, 06:32 AM #76
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"The 90 wins is about challenge. It's about changing the conversation. It's about framing questions for ourselves as to how we get there. So I stand by the notion that we need to get better, and in doing so we need to set concrete goals for ourselves so that we have sort of specific conversations among ourselves about how we're going to get there." -- Mr. Alderson
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That would be Ideal. Olt, Martin and a lower level outfielder. Originally Posted by YoungStuna28
If they could pull of Olt, Martin and Ronald Guzman I would be pumped!
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12-03-2012, 09:33 AM #78
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I also really like Luery Garcia. He's a second base prospect that seems to have good tools.
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12-03-2012, 09:41 AM #79
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Does anyone think the Rangers would trade Olt and Martin for Dickey? If yes would they include another piece that may be further along such as Guzman or Garcia?
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12-03-2012, 09:42 AM #80
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Would set out OF up nicely. Kirk in Left, Martin in Center, Olt in Right.
Trade Duda, DD + for JPA and this team could contend.
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12-03-2012, 10:35 AM #81
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I would take Olt+ for Dickey, but tops would be Wil Meyers. That would be a sensational move.
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If Dickey gets traded, would you still be in favor of trading Niese also?
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12-03-2012, 10:46 AM #84
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http://metsblog.com/metsblog/latest-...etsBlog.com%29Latest on R.A. Dickey: Mets underwhelmed by trade offers
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12-03-2012, 10:51 AM #85
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Walk away, and see how far they follow. As some media have pointed out, some teams will become more interested as the FA market dries up. Originally Posted by clayamtion
"The 90 wins is about challenge. It's about changing the conversation. It's about framing questions for ourselves as to how we get there. So I stand by the notion that we need to get better, and in doing so we need to set concrete goals for ourselves so that we have sort of specific conversations among ourselves about how we're going to get there." -- Mr. Alderson
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12-03-2012, 10:52 AM #86
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I might be more inclined to trade Niese if the return is far greater.
Any trade with the Rangers I would want Olt and Martin. Is that realistic?
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12-03-2012, 12:01 PM #87
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http://tedquarters.net/words/take-warning/J.P. Arencibia, frequently linked to the Mets in early trade rumors, is merely a mild upgrade. He hits for way more power, but his production is mitigated by his inability to get on base with any frequency. His 88 career OPS+ is only a tick higher than Thole’s 85, and his .275 career on-base percentage is about exactly the same as Thole’s post-injury mark in 2012. And he’s not much of a defender.
Arencibia will be 27 in January, so he could still improve a bit — though so could Thole. Plus he hits right-handed and he won’t be eligible for free agency until after 2016. If he were practically free, or a part of a larger trade package, he’d make a decent right-handed complement to Thole in a platoon. But since he hasn’t hit lefties as well as free-agents Kelly Shoppach, Chris Snyder, Ronny Paulino or even Bobby Wilson, none of whom seems likely to command a whole ton of money, Arencibia hardly seems worth targeting in a trade unless he lands in the Mets’ laps.
Arencibia’s Minor League history should also sound a small warning about the Blue Jays’ more coveted young catcher, Travis d’Arnaud. d’Arnaud moved through the Minors at a younger age than Arencibia and typically posted more promising walk rates. But though d’Arnaud’s .333/.380/.595 line as a 23-year-old at Triple-A Las Vegas looks enticing to a Mets fan dreaming of an All-Star catcher, it’s not far off from the .301/.359/626 marks Arencibia posted in Vegas as a 24-year-old in 2010. d’Arnaud carries a better reputation in prospect circles than Arencibia ever did, and, again, he’s younger and far more likely to emerge as a Major League star, so worth way more in a trade than Arencibia. But he’s far from a guarantee to immediately succeed in the Majors. Sometimes what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
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12-03-2012, 12:04 PM #88
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Dickey or Niese should not be traded for either catcher over there. Originally Posted by clayamtion
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Yeah they need a first basemen. The only thing i would give up for JPA is Duda.
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12-03-2012, 01:16 PM #90
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