I agree that i don't know why they would want Andre Ethier, but to say the dodgers would need an $80 million salary dump to move Ethier is silly. Do you really believe that he is similar to Vernon Wells or Soriano? Really? When did he become such an EXTREME liability in the field and at the plate that the dodgers would have to pick up 100% of his contract to move him?
If that is the case then why don't you say that he should be benched instead? I mean if he is as bad as you suggest that the dodgers would need to pick up his salary and then give money to the rays to take him why don't they just bench him.
I understand if he isn't a fit on the rays but I'm surprised he became a player with literally no value.
Last edited by ciaban; 12-02-2012 at 08:15 PM.
You are making a dangerous and false assumption here.He may not be traded this offseason and right now the Rays have some leverage as of now with what they can demand but as with all money strapped franchises time works against them. The Rays dont absolutely have to trade Price right now if they dont want to but if they arent willing to fork out the major dollars to retain him at some point they will be forced to. My point, you and half the people in this thread are insane to believe that franchises with superstar players that people want but only a few franchises can afford, hold 100% of the leverage and that the Rays can simply get whatever they want for Price without hesitation.
It's not about Price. It's the fact that Ethier is worthless to the Rays, and his contract is a bad contract. If you want to unload Ethier, it wouldn't be to the Rays unless you were going to basically pay all of his salary. He means nothing to the Rays because they already have an Andre Ethier and he is inexpensive.As I said, time works against them. Its a business. They have plenty of time to do something as of right now though. 80 million in salary? Thats a ****ing joke. Give me a break.
He doesn't play centerfield, and again.They just lost Upton and Ethier would be a great replacement.
They already have Matt Joyce. He is the exact same player Andre Ethier is.
He can't play center.Its not hard to shift spots either in the outfield defensively.
That doesn't make him more valuable in a trade if you somehow think he is or and that it does.Dude is straight up clutch too.
You are completely ignoring the Rays needs/wants in a deal where they would trade David Price.He is not some pos player. They would get him at a discount too since as I said, the Dodgers would of course have to fork up some money in the deal. Just not some $80 million salary bs. lmao.
Andre Ethier means absolutely nothing to them. You are not helping the Rays here, so it's a worthless trade proposition. The Rays would only trade Price if they are blown away. They have multiple years to figure something out with him, if they are going to trade him, it would have to be an insane overpay to get him at this point, because it makes no sense to move a cost controlled ace from a 90 win team until they know they can't re-sign him. And you don't usually sign pitchers to longer than 5 year deals anyway, and he is basically under contract for 3 more years. They have no need to move him, and they only would if they were completely blown away with a move that greatly improves the team. Andre Ethier doesn't improve the Tampa Bay Rays.
There are other teams that might take him without needing too much money involved.
When did I say any of this?Do you really believe that he is similar to Vernon Wells or Soriano? Really? When did he become such an EXTREME liability in the field and at the plate that the dodgers would have to pick up 100% of his contract to move him?
What are you trying to argue here?If that is the case then why don't you say that he should be benched instead? I mean if he is as bad as you suggest that the dodgers would need to pick up his salary and then give money to the rays to take him why don't they just bench him.
I never said any of the above.
Again, never said any of this.I understand if he isn't a fit on the rays but I'm surprised he became a player with literally no value.
Sox could get him....at the cost of Doubront, XB, JBJr, and Owens......I wouldn't want him for that price (no pun intended)
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Did not read the first full 8 pages
But trade value wise would Price for G.Stanton be an even swap?
Obviously it would never happen; but as far as value?
Also Texas could move OLT to another team for the right prospect that the rays would desire. Profar, Olt/replacement/ and top two pitcher prospects gets that deal done for the rays
You would have to basically send 80 million along with Ethier, and still have to give up Lee and maybe more to get Price.That's what I said.And the reason for the 80 million, is simply because it makes absolutely no sense for the Rays to take Andre Ethier, especially when they already have Andre Ethier in RF, but he goes by the name Matt Joyce.
I never said he compares to Vernon Wells, or Alfonso Soriano, or that he was worthless lol. I never said any of that.
The Rays have no need for Ethier, he makes no sense for them.
wonder if TB would be interested in Travis DÓrnaud plus for shields?
1)That he has a bloated inflated contract and even though he still has value he wont be able to produce half of what the contract is paying him i.e. Alex Rodriguez.
2)He isn't very good, and lacks almost any value, the team is better off benching him or paying him to play somewhere else to free up the roster spot i.e. Vernon Wells,
So what is it? Because i can't think of any other time a team just dumped a huge contract and paid a player to go somewhere else unless it is one of those two things.
Personally i don't think he will ever be traded and i don't see why some are suggesting it.
Last edited by ciaban; 12-02-2012 at 11:02 PM.