There are a lot more problems than Sanchez. In a perfect world, this is the moment when somebody low on the depth chart steps up.
With that said, the team has been a lot worse than 5-7.
With all the media attention, this is the worst 5-7 team in NFL history.
The losses-- Houston, Pitt, San Fran, Seattle, Miami (1-1) and 2 to New England
Granted if we can't beat the good teams we don't deserve to play good teams again in the playoffs -- but we've also beat every team we've played that has had a losing record (8-4 Indy is the only +.500 team we've beat).
They've been painted as the worst team in the league and they're far from it. If Holmes and Revis are healthy this is a different conversation, regardless of holes that still need to be patched.
With that said, it's really impossible to call McElroy a better game manager at this point.
What QBs even hit the FA market?
Sanchez signed the same deal as Kolb, Fitzpatrick and Cassel. Seattle made a decent commitment to bring in Flynn. Sanchez wont be easy to replace. As much of a lightning rod as he is, you don't want Brooks Bollinger, Kellen Clemens, Jay Fiedler, Ray Lucas, etc.
Who remebers when people thought it was a mistake to pass on BRETT RATLIFF for BRET FAVRE
Give me better options before Sanchez is out the door
Last edited by Sandman; 12-03-2012 at 01:04 AM.
Jamarcus Russel never showed anything.
you are correct Sanchez is no Ryan Leaf or J.R. and he has the #1 rushing attack and top 3 defense to thank for it.
Had sanchez been drafted by the browns or any other crap team in 2009 he would be pushing both those guys for the top spot.
"The Butt of all jokes"
It's clear at this point that you're just so angry at Mark Sanchez that you're unable to think clearly. Defense had nothing to do with Mark Sanchez throwing the ball. And for all the rushing attack Sanchez had, he has only had one year with an actual respectable receiving core, and that was 2010. It's not like the guy was dropped into the middle of an elite offense.
But in a league where QBs get equally crucified for flopping in the playoffs, and even though the Jets rush attack was legitimate in 09 and 10, Mark Sanchez had his best games of the year in January and there aren't a lot of quarterbacks you could say that about.
Sanchez is like the anti Armando Benitez. Nobody cares about that now though. But he's certainly done some things worth being appreciative of, even though his time as our QB will hopefully be over soon.
dammit I agree with you on all these points, don't take it personally that I'm about to rant.
Say the Jets luck out with a late round or undrafted pick like Romo (or McElroy) -- he could put up numbers in the regular season like the numbers Romo has put up in the past and we would flush him down the toilet if he made a mistake in the playoffs. I hate to verbal blow Sanchez because he's not doing anything for us now, but he had 3 TDs and 0 INTs to Brady's 2/1 IN FOXBORO IN THE PLAYOFFS. This was a year Brady won the MVP. This was a year the Patriots were 14-2 and 8-0 at home, and whacked the Jets 45-3 on December 6th. I won't deny that it was a team victory, but haters gonna hate. Say what you want about Sanchez but when has the grass been greener on the other side?
As far as Matt Ryan... Mark Sanchez doesn't stack up to the other QBs that have been drafted in the past 5 years. Well, once again, Sanchez aside, look at what these other teams have done to put weapons around their QB. Regardless of who your QB is you put him in a position to succeed right?
Falcons/Ryan - made moves for Julio Jones, had Roddy White, put together other players Tony Gonzalez Mike Turner etc..
Ravens/Flacco - self proclaimed best QB. They still went out and got Anquan Boldin and Ray Rice is one of the best pass catchers out of the backfield
Lions/Stafford - they already had Calvin Johnson, if thats not a safety net
Bengals/Dalton - drafted AJ Greene, Jermaine Gresham is a great TE
Bucs/Freeman - brought in Vincent Jackson
Even J-ville brought in Blackmon after Gabbert
And Rivers. Philip Rivers and Josh Freeman show you how much the pendulum can swing depending on the team you have playing around you.
Still pissed about 2008, and still not sure whether it was Favre that tried to play through a torn bicep or whether the team covered it up.Brett Favre probably choked away a trip to the superbowl against the Saints. Sanchez is 2-1 against Tom Brady and Peyton Manning in the playoffs.
And there is the problem.Sanchez is like the anti Armando Benitez. Nobody cares about that now though. But he's certainly done some things worth being appreciative of, even though his time as our QB will hopefully be over soon.
I love Rex but theres an obvious offensive neglect going on. Defense is always good for the talent thats on it.
Same with Sanchez to an extent. He has shown flashes but has shown fuses.
So i took my dad to his first Football game yesterday Jets vs Cardinals. My Dad having little or no knowledge of the game ( Football fan (Soccer) ) He said at half time Sanchez Looks beat, and it would do him some good to sit on the bench. Normally i would have a counter point to this argument, but strangely i agreed with him. Its not that Sanchez is any worse than McElroy but he's not got the energy, looked like he had given up. I believe that siting Sanchez at least a couple more games might give him the drive to get HIS job back.
When McElroy entered the game, the team had life, the fans had life it was a completely different atmosphere. The running game was working, the Oline were making holes and receivers were getting open. A change that needed to happen not because we want McElroy but because Sanchez was down and we needed to win.
Going back to what this thread is all about McElroy. He's a winner. I believe don't quote me on this but he's only lost one game as a starting QB. He makes smart decisions, instead of forcing balls (turnovers) great time management, having no training time was able to do the 4 min drill wonderfully. Ive been calling for McElroy to be the QB over Tebow. (I like Tebow but not as a QB) As a jets fan i became annoyed that McElroy was doing things that Sanchez doesn't even do. When no one was available he was able to throw the ball away not force it. He was recognizing defenses, Knowing how long he had left on the clock.
The Biggest Question i have is, Would they of Played Tebow if he was geared up?
In limited time yesterday McElroy played better than Sanchez did in a lot of the games he started this year
Props To CheapTrikz For The Sig
If McElroy starts from now on, I think they should bring Pennington in to tutor this kid
We've got something special in McElroy I heard the guys calling the game mention that he took control of the scout team and got them focused to get better. Give this kid time with the 1st team offense during practice and see what he is really capable of
Props To CheapTrikz For The Sig
Make no mistake, the Jets have failed Sanchez horribly. You don't draft a QB no. 5 overall and groom him to be a game manager. And you also don't drastically change his WR corp every season. You probably shouldn't get rid of guys who seem to have chemistry with him like Braylon and Cotch.
Then they don't use any high draft picks on weapons to help him until this past draft where they drafted a raw project player in rd 2.
Don't get me wrong, as a former Sanchez supporter, I acknowledge that he sucks and a lot of it is on him. His lack awareness and propensity to **** up and the most crucial times is probably more of a result of his mental make up.
But a lot of it is on the Jets too. They have done nothing since they drafted him to help him develop.