Everyone's all excited about trading R.A. Dickey, but all it means is the Mets are another 2 or so years from being any good.
The Wilpons have condemned us to watching garbage teams for a good 5 years total so they can bleed the team like leeches and recoup all the stolen money they pocketed in Ponzi scheme #2.
For that reason I'm not too excited about the trade. It's all about the Wilpons trying to save money and wastes two years of our lives we could have had exciting baseball.
WAR indicates it wouldn't have been false hope.
But, you're YOUNG Stuna28. You're probably overconfident you'll live forever and aren't worried about waiting and waiting and waiting for championship quality baseball. All I can tell you is time flies.
Your conspiracy may very well be correct, but there is nothing you or I can do about it so I'm on board with the moves they make as long as they are sound baseball decisions. Dealing RA for the 2 top prospects we got back is a great baseball decision for a rebuilding Mets team.
The payroll was around $142M back then, so I don't see how we could make any more moves and retain our players.
The problem now is that we have to hope this number one catching prospect pans out. But mpre than that, we have to hope the young pitchers pick up a lot of the slack that baseball's number one innings eater left behind.
That's a lot to ask.
Still waiting for this trade to be announced and then we'll see if the kids they got back can be impact players at their positions.
Otherwise, all the Sandy Wilpons did was spin their wheels and bring in more APHs while having to worry about one less expensive contract.
"Ain't got the call no more. Got a lot of sinful idears – but they seem kinda sensible...."
A popular Mets player who was around during some terrible seasons, but who was more valuable to the Mets as a trade commodity.
Dickey is a great pitcher who I loved to root for, but in the end he is more valuable to a contender and we have two stellar prospects to show for that.
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Losing Mazzilli's -0.9 WAR was a plus, while losing Dickey's 5.6 WAR will be a problem.
Long term this might be a good deal, but as it stands it's a cost cutting move in which the Mets are punting the next couple years. It's a traditional Royals/Pirates kind of move made by a bad, cheap team to cut costs in exchange for a hand full of magic beans.
As it relates to this thread, the Mets are now substantially further away than they were before.
Well if D'Arnaud can hit .280/.330/.470 with good defense, he will be a huge upgrade over Thole. Hard to call him a magic bean when he's a major league ready elite prospect.
Syndergaard was certainly risky, but anytime you can get a potential ace you do it. He absolutely dominated Low A last year at only 19 years old.
We were not a piece or two away from contention, and starting pitching is the major strength of this organization. Just accept the rebuilding phase.
I applaud Wilpon for letting this trade go down instead of keeping Dickey for one more season for ticket sales and the all-star game, only to let him go after the season.
Last edited by YoungStuna; 12-17-2012 at 11:56 AM.