I know everyone hates the words "Andres" and "Torres" in the same sentence but he had equal fWAR value to Juan Pierre last year who was very effective for the Phillies in the same platoon type role.
Torres is not a terrible bench player or 5th OF, what scares you is if he becomes our only option in CF (if Kirk under performs next year or Den Dekker fails in AAA again).
That's what we don't want and that's my main reasoning for not wanting him back.
But in context of being a 5th OF he is not a bad player.
Last edited by metswon69; 12-01-2012 at 12:04 AM.
That said, yeah the Mets might have to pass. I think it might be a mistake at this point to turn around and pay Hamilton any more than they just paid Wright. They seem to be making a big deal out of David getting the highest contract in team history, and making him captain. Turning around and showing even more appreciation for a guy like Hamilton might send the wrong message. Sure Hamilton at his best is better than Wright. But overall, over the course of a season, he's really not. You are just getting a complete overall package with Wright that you aren't getting there, and that has to affect his value.
But if the Red Sox were to pass, and the the top competition for the Rangers starts to come from teams like the Brewers and Mariners, maybe there's still a shot even setting a limit of not exceeding what we just paid Wright?
Point is, the Mets should be thinking big here. Maybe Hamilton isn't the guy. Maybe Justin Upton isn't the guy. But if they find the right guy to be that other cornerstone, there's no reason they should have to wait for 2014. They should have enough flexibility by now to move when the right opportunity is there. "Flexibility" is a word we've heard a lot the last couple of years, but "flexibility" needs to go both ways.
Yes i would absolutely trade Niese and Gee for Myers and i'm sure Sandy would too. Problem is, KC wouldn't do that.
Before Mike Trout made his ML debut, are you saying you wouldn't have traded Niese and Gee for him simply because he had no ML experience? That's a pretty bad reason. What about Bryce Harper before he started a game? Most players who are projected to be stars this close to actually making it to the ML, usually become pretty good.
Gee can be replaced relatively easily and I'd definitely trade Niese for Myers. You're nuts if you wouldn't.
I'm still holding to my word where I said the Mets will be contenders in 2014. A few right moves and we are right back in it.
I wish we could get Jose back, move Tejada to 2B and make Murphy the first bat off the bench.
Sandy is a proven liar and a shill for the worst ownership in baseball
You are really comparing Myers to Trout and Harper?
Those two guys were generational prospects and they made their MLB debuts at 19 years old. They were the #1a and #1b best prospects in baseball, Myers isn't thought of like that and he is turning 22.
You think if the guy was that special that the Royals would even think about dealing him? His numbers in the PCL weren't amazing by any means, he just had great counting numbers.
Tell me this, is it easier to find a cost-controlled #2/#3 in Niese and a very good #4 in Gee, or an above average corner outfielder? Myers could very well become that, and his AAA numbers suggest that. No one is a guaranteed star, so we'll just have to find out.
Our rotation would be: Dickey, Santana, Harvey, (Pelfrey?), (Familia?)
Our biggest strength just became a huge question mark and possible weakness with a huge amount of pressure for Harvey and Wheeler to do well. Pitching is very hard to find.
Last edited by YoungStuna; 12-01-2012 at 12:15 AM.
Unfortunately, I think the Royals might want one of Dickey, Wheeler, or Harvey included in that package. They want a top of rotation arm.
Having no MLB experience is a TERRIBLE reason not to trade for someone. Niese and Gee for Wil Myers? Win for the Mets if that ever happened.... but it won't....
I think it's at least close enough to debate, which is what makes it at least somewhat realistic.