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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVE KID View Post
    this might happen tonight or early morning...of course just a guess. What else is there to think about on the d-backs side?
    Give Baltimore a chance to up their offer? Really though if what is being hinted at is true that will be impossible for them to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HowFit
    If this trade pulls thru I see another bump in attendance for next few years...
    Yeah, they already have a lot of likable players. Biggest thing will be for the younger guys who have a lot of personality -- Medlen, Heyward, Freeman, Kimbrel, Simmons, etc -- to get on the national radar and embrace it like Chipper Jones did as a young player. It would also be a good story for fans to see McCann bounce back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB75 View Post
    I'm praying it's Delgado and not JT as the big time pitching prospect.....ray:
    Delgado or Minor instead of JT and I'll be very happy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo95 View Post
    Yeah, they already have a lot of likable players. Biggest thing will be for the younger guys who have a lot of personality -- Medlen, Heyward, Freeman, Kimbrel, Simmons, etc -- to get on the national radar and embrace it like Chipper Jones did as a young player. It would also be a good story for fans to see McCann bounce back.
    I have good feelings about McCann now he gotten his shoulder taken care of...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HowFit View Post
    Delgado or Minor instead of JT and I'll be very happy...
    Me too my friend, me to....... Even though I like Minor alot also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickmurph37
    yeah look it up its a good read trade talks were in 91 or 92 i think..Jim Leyland said if the trade goes through he"ll quit
    Yeah, seems like something Leyland would say. I hated the Pirates back then but it was hard to dislike their manager.

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    I guess I am in the minority but I would rather keep Delgado

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    Quote Originally Posted by HowFit
    I have good feelings about McCann now he gotten his shoulder taken care of...
    I'm more pessimistic because of his age and the punishment his body has taken behind the plate in this Atlanta heat.

    But I'd love to be wrong about him.

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    With Duke I have obviously had a rough night, please give us good news Based Wren.

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    I didn't say I didn't want to give up pitching, I don't want to give up JT because I feel he is going to be amazing.
    I'm fine with going into the season as is then making a trade later if needed. But I really want to see JT in the majors for a half to full season consistently.
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    Aw man, I just looked up that Bonds trade... completely forgot about this.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/11/sp...l/11chass.html
    Had the Pittsburgh Pirates not reneged on a trade in 1992, nine months before Bonds became a free agent and signed with the San Francisco Giants, Bonds would have been a member of the Atlanta Braves.

    And as John Schuerholz, the Braves' general manager, writes in his new book, "Built to Win" (Warner Books), he was confident the Braves could have signed Bonds to a long-term contract. "We were flying high back then," Schuerholz writes, "and our payroll was beginning to grow."

    The deal, Schuerholz writes, was done: Bonds for pitcher Alejandro Peņa, outfielder Keith Mitchell and a prospect to be named. "I was euphoric," he writes. "Barry Bonds was a Brave!"


    The trade was to be announced the next day, and on that day, Schuerholz called his Pirates counterpart, Ted Simmons, to coordinate the timing of the announcement.

    The book, scheduled for publication April 2, relates the conversation between the two general managers:

    "We have a problem," Simmons said.

    "What do you mean, a problem?" Schuerholz said. "Don't want to release it just yet? What?"

    "I can't do the deal," Simmons said.

    Simmons went on to explain that when he told Jim Leyland, the Pirates' manager, about the trade, Leyland "blew up."

    Bonds was the Pirates' best player. With him as their primary threat, the Pirates had won the National League East Division title the previous two seasons and were considered likely to win it that year as well. (They did.) Bonds had been the National League most valuable player in 1990 and would be again the next two seasons after the aborted trade.

    "When informed of the trade," Schuerholz writes, "Jim went barging into Pirates President Cark Barger's office and, according to Ted, went absolutely haywire. He said Barger came back to him and said it was a situation so troublesome to the manager and this and that, they couldn't do the deal. And ultimately it was called off."

    Even though Bonds was a Brave for 15 hours, Schuerholz writes that he wasn't sure that Bonds ever knew about the trade. At the Giants camp here yesterday, Bonds said, "I know Leyland stopped them from trading me," but he didn't know specifically about the Braves.

    Schuerholz, who has been the Braves' general manager throughout their unparalleled run of 14 consecutive division championships, said he had never had a team back out of a trade before and hasn't had it happen since.

    Had the Pirates not backed out of that deal, Schuerholz writes, it "might have changed the course of baseball history in a number of ways." He added: "Though Barry couldn't have produced more division titles for us, might he have powered us to another World Series title or two? Would he have developed into the same prolific home run hitter he became in San Francisco after his move to the Giants?"

    The answer to the first question, based on Bonds's postseason history, is: probably not. The answer to the second question is: it depends. It depends on whether Bonds would have followed the same path he has with the Giants, whatever that has been.

    Another new book, "Game of Shadows: Barry Bonds, Balco and the Steroids Scandal That Rocked Professional Sports," says Bonds was chemically aided in hitting many of his 708 home runs, including his record 73 in 2001.

    Schuerholz says he is confident Bonds would have been different in at least one area: his comportment. If Bonds had joined the Braves, "he would have quickly accepted our longstanding team rules regarding issues such as not wearing jewelry while in uniform and not being allowed a recliner at his locker instead of the simple, canvas captain's chair our other players have."

    "Nor would he have been accorded any other special star perk that might have set him apart and above his teammates," Schuerholz adds.

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    I'm just not that high on Justin basically.
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    **** Jim Leyland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo95 View Post
    Yeah, they already have a lot of likable players. Biggest thing will be for the younger guys who have a lot of personality -- Medlen, Heyward, Freeman, Kimbrel, Simmons, etc -- to get on the national radar and embrace it like Chipper Jones did as a young player. It would also be a good story for fans to see McCann bounce back.
    They're also already putting plans in place to redo the whole area around Turner Field which should have a really good effect on our attendance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HickCaesar View Post
    They're also already putting plans in place to redo the whole area around Turner Field which should have a really good effect on our attendance.
    Really? Where did you see this? I just like to know the details

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