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    Quote Originally Posted by jomota48 View Post
    I wish we would have kept Reyes. I loved watching him play. Can't say I'd invite him over to dinner. He looked creepy. But that's his right to do so. Never understood the gangsta subculture look. Never really understood the hippies either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    How about how he carried the Mets offense for the whole 1st half this year? Did we forget that he posted a line of .351/.441/.563/1.004 in the first half this year?

    ...and that was without guys like Reyes, Beltran and Wright around him, nobody was even close to that kind of production on the Mets and obviously the minute he stopped hitting at that pace the Mets stumbled.

    For the record here are the 2nd half numbers of those 4 guys in 2008

    Carlos Delgado .303/.386/.606/.991, 21 homers, and 63 RBI
    Carlos Beltran .307/.395/.534/.928, 12 homers and 46 RBI
    Jose Reyes .289/.345/.459/.804
    David Wright .330/.406/.582/.988, 16 homers, 54 RBI

    Funny how things are remembered, David Wright was just as productive as Delgado was the 2nd half of 2008. Heck, Beltran was pretty damn good himself too, sorry, but Delgado did not carried the offense on his shoulder on the second half of that year. He had some huge hits, but as always it was those 4 guys doing all the damage for the Mets while their pen imploded and staff went only 5 innings or so.
    Yes this!!! Exactly what I was trying to say.

    I think the whole notion of "carrying" a team is overblown. ...nobody really does it over a full season. But if we are going to talk about stretches within a season, I don't see how Wright's first half of 2012 wouldn't qualify, but Delgado's 2008 would...especially given the team's around those guys

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    I miss the big 4... :cry:

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna28 View Post
    I miss the big 4... :cry:
    Hey we still have the big 1 and 3/4 with Wright and Ike.
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    I don't think we're that far away.
    (6 games under .500 before June. Not that far away from what?)

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    I'd be jizzing everywhere if we had that kind of offensive production right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna28 View Post
    No one player can carry their team alone. This is not NBA or NFL.

    Wright is an elite 3rd baseman, and his value to the Mets goes beyond his salary or production on the field.

    What we need to do is make ourselves better now.
    No one player carries a team alone in any sport, particularly the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna28 View Post
    I miss the big 4... :cry:
    Me too. And its sucks that the last few years when we did have them on the team (or at least 3 of the 4) we could never get them all healthy at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodyHoopz View Post
    No one player carries a team alone in any sport, particularly the NFL.
    Lebron in NBA. Any elite QB in the NFL.

    Maybe not alone because it's obviously a team game, but a Lebron or elite QB can win have a large say in how games are determined from game to game. Can't say that about anyone in baseball because players fail so often.
    Last edited by YoungStuna; 12-01-2012 at 12:47 AM.

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    Difference is in football and basketball (is that still around) is that your superstar can touch the ball on every play. In baseball your superstar bats 4-5 times a game or pitches every 5 days. Other teams can work around them. You can't work around LeBron or Drew Brees. You can give the ball to Lebron, Brees has the ball at the start of the play. The Angels have to wait for Pujols to come up and then hope someone is on base. If Dickey pitched yesterday, he is useless today. Even a goalie can carry a hockey team (only player in sports that plays every minute).

    No one person can carry a team in baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomota48 View Post
    Difference is in football and basketball (is that still around) is that your superstar can touch the ball on every play. In baseball your superstar bats 4-5 times a game or pitches every 5 days. Other teams can work around them. You can't work around LeBron or Drew Brees. You can give the ball to Lebron, Brees has the ball at the start of the play. The Angels have to wait for Pujols to come up and then hope someone is on base. If Dickey pitched yesterday, he is useless today. Even a goalie can carry a hockey team (only player in sports that plays every minute).

    No one person can carry a team in baseball.
    Yes exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna28 View Post
    Lebron in NBA. Any elite QB in the NFL.

    Maybe not alone because it's obviously a team game, but a Lebron or elite QB can win have a large say in how games are determined from game to game. Can't say that about anyone in baseball because players fail so often.
    Elite QBs aint carrying their teams. QB is nothing without his WRs and a good defense

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    Yeah guys like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers don't carry their teams, their defenses aren't that good, and their WR are nothing special. Great QBs make their wide receivers better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna28 View Post
    I'd be jizzing everywhere if we had that kind of offensive production right now.
    Corey Hart and Mike Morse in 2014, not the best but pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna28 View Post
    Yeah guys like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers don't carry their teams, their defenses aren't that good, and their WR are nothing special. Great QBs make their wide receivers better.
    Crystal clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugmet View Post
    Think Dickey is a hipster?

    If a tree falls in the woods, and nobody’s around to hear it, will a hipster buy the soundtrack?
    Probably not a hipster. A hippie, maybe.
    Sandy Alderson says Mets' 2014 payroll will be more than $87 million
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    Payroll is $85 million this year. It was $85 million last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy Alderson
    I don't think we're that far away.
    (6 games under .500 before June. Not that far away from what?)

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