I consider any player that reaches the Majors to be a success story. If they were the best of the bunch - eh - but they aren't. And I don't think it is beyond the realm of possibility that both can improve.
I don't share the same opinion, I guess we are at an impasse.
"You don't know how to drink. Your whole generation, you drink for the wrong reasons. My generation, we drink because it's good, because it feels better than unbuttoning your collar, because we deserve it. We drink because it's what men do."