The Raiders Lounge II

[BlackWidow]

Tired but can't sleep. Frustrated. :/

[BigGuy951]

I'm sorry BW

[BlackWidow]

It's ok I'll live

[unfiltered81]

So who do we draft if we are in the top 5?? I personally like manti te'o thoughts?

[SATexasRaider]

I'll have a Heineken and Johnie Walker on the side.

What does the Raider Nation favor when its thirsty?

Walker Black, Lone Star (Texas brewed) and some Yager..

[SATexasRaider]

So who do we draft if we are in the top 5?? I personally like manti te'o thoughts?

Trade it for proven, developed players..

[themadstork]

Trade it for proven, developed players..

No...trade down for additional picks. If McKenzie can swing a player or two in addition, so be it.

-Stork

[SATexasRaider]

No...trade down for additional picks. If McKenzie can swing a player or two in addition, so be it.

-Stork

Also a good idea. Personally, I feel this team has been trying to develop rookies with potential for way too long. All picks are a risk, 1st round or 7th. Building through the draft is something that teams that are already strucurally sound can afford to do. This team is a mess and needs to start winning now. This Te'o kid looks like a good football player, so did McLain. I think going after guys that have been in the league 2-3 years and play in a similar system are keys to building this team. All in my opinion of course..

[themadstork]

Why would other teams move their young building blocks? If another team is willing to move a guy, its got to send up red flags.

Rebuilding teams need to draft well to improve.

-Stork

[SATexasRaider]

Why would other teams move their young building blocks? If another team is willing to move a guy, its got to send up red flags.

Rebuilding teams need to draft well to improve.

-Stork

IMO not all players fit into the system they were drafted into. This is where a good scouting/player evaluation group comes into play..finding jewels in others garbage.

None the less, I don't think the Raiders need to draft a player with their first round pick..should be traded away in any capacity..

[SATexasRaider]

I read that Monte Kiffin is planning on leaving USC at the conclusion of this season to pursue opportunities in the NFL. Mike Tomlin was a defensive coordinator with the Vikings prior to taking the Steelers job, yet he is hands off with Dick LeBeau calling the shots in Pittsburgh. Not to toss Tarver under the bus, but we could really use an elder statesman like Monte Kiffin to turn this defense around.

Taking this a step further, it would show some wisdom in the part of Dennis Allen to bring someone like Kiffin in, to mentor him [Allen] as well has get this defense on track.

For the record, I don't believe this is all Tarver's fault, and I believe he has a bright future, however I simply believe Monte Kiffin is one of the finest defensive minds in football history.

Thought?...

I agree Monte would have a great impact (positive). Just because he has not had great success at the college level does not mean he's lost it. The man is a legend in the NFL.

[bigjunior559]

I read that Monte Kiffin is planning on leaving USC at the conclusion of this season to pursue opportunities in the NFL. Mike Tomlin was a defensive coordinator with the Vikings prior to taking the Steelers job, yet he is hands off with Dick LeBeau calling the shots in Pittsburgh. Not to toss Tarver under the bus, but we could really use an elder statesman like Monte Kiffin to turn this defense around.

Taking this a step further, it would show some wisdom in the part of Dennis Allen to bring someone like Kiffin in, to mentor him [Allen] as well has get this defense on track.

For the record, I don't believe this is all Tarver's fault, and I believe he has a bright future, however I simply believe Monte Kiffin is one of the finest defensive minds in football history.

Thought?...

I wouldn't mind him being brought in but i think i would rather give Tarver another year just for some consistency on the defense side, i dnt think its his fault most of our guys can't tackle, are constantly out of place & was given very minimal talent to work with(due to injuries & not really having a draft). Just my opinion though...

[nyraidersfan]

BW, I don't give a **** is Melanie's head is star, cylinder, cone or square shaped. She's freaken beautiful and I would still do great things to her

This

[BlackWidow]

Ahhhhh

[Prov0]

Im with everyone on board about dumping these players, trading our pick and rebuild.

BUT IMHO.. i dont think we will do that. I see us holding onto our pick. Maybe restruct some contracts and try to sign some free sgents. Mark Davis said he dont want to see regression . I hope im wrong but i just dont see it haappening and as with Dmac i dont see us trading him.