How did the Red Sox do after acquiring Gonzalez and Crawford? NO PLAYOFFS
How did the Angels do after acquiring Pujols and Wilson? NO PLAYOFFS
How did the Marlins do after acquiring Reyes, Buehrle and Bell? NO PLAYOFFS
How did the Dodgers do after acquiring Gonzalez, Crawford, Beckett, Ramirez, Victorino? NO PLAYOFFS
How do you really expect the Blue Jays to do after acquiring Reyes, Buehrle and Johnson? FILL IN THE BLANK
I would take the Blue Jays roster in a video game forsure, but I'll take the Orioles all day in real life since they are proven healthy, and winners. Toronto has won nothing but the "Roster on paper Championship."
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Alls I know is that it will be an exciting year for the AL East. Four of the teams have a shot to win 90 games, and even the Red Sox could sit at .500. I know the winter meetings aren't over, and this could change with one or two signings/trades, but every team is competent enough and I think the AL Central and West are going to have some horrid teams next year. The Mariners, Astros, Twins, Indians and Royals are likely in for brutal seasons IMO.
The AL east just has so much talent now.
It probably hasn't been this even of a playing field in a long time. Excited for April!
What happens if Reyes, an injury prone player has half his games on turf, gets hurt? You traded Yunel and Adeiny to the Marlins to get him. Do you want Maicer Izturis starting if Reyes goes down? Nobody would.
Johnson is a stud. He is awesome, but he has had health issues.
Morrow got hurt last year.
Bautista had wrist surgery and that can linger and affect a hitters power.
EE stepped up big last year, he is the man.
Reyes is a great player, but a question mark.
I think one of the most important turnarounds the jays ened is for Romero to come back healthy and effective. He was so good before last year!
I hope it works out for the Jays, evenm as an O's fan. I've always rooted for the Jays, but I'm not going to sit here and call them the favorites to win the division. If they sign Josh Hamilton or Greinke, I might change my mind. But now? I don't think so.
Every team has a weakness.
The Jays it's health.
The Yankees its age.
Rays its offense.
The Orioles it's if they can prove last season was no fluke.
Boston is rebuilding for a bit now.
It's easily concievable any of these teams with bad breaks could be looking up in the standings next year.
I honestly cannot say with certainly how the season will unfold.
Well that has a lot to do with the fact that the season hasnt even started yet.
It means absolutely nothing that other teams recently have made big splashes and failed. We obviously improved our team. Its not like we are throwing out the Marlins of last year. We already had a very high potential core last season coupled with Johnson, Reyes, Cabrera, Bonafacio, Izturis is an immense improvement.
I dont think you actually mean it when you say you would take Baltimores roster over Torontos. Youve gotta be smarter than that
I have to lol at some Baltimore fans comments in here. They make the playoffs once in 15 years and all of a sudden they're a perennial powerhouse.
And all of the comments about all or half or the majority of Jays are injury prone, lol, this is like def comedy jam in here.
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I am not trying to claim the O's will win the division or even make the playoffs again. I also do not believe we will only win 70 games. I see us as an above .500 team with a chnace for more, or less if we get hit with the injury bug.
I am simply stating the Jays are injury prone, especially their new additions. I think Buehrle will have the greatest impact on the team of the new gusy because he is a workhorse. Plain and simple. He is no ace, but he is quality and you can book him for 200 plus innings which is amazing to consistenly do nowadays.
I simply question the people saying the Jays are the favorites for the divsion. I guess the favorites have to be the Yanekes, but I don't even like to go that far.
It will be a close race all things considered.
I'm not trying to praise the O's and bash everyone else. I just question the people saying they already are favorites and have the division wrapped up. I think they need another big piece still, like Hamilton or Greinke.
Ya pretty sure you can bookmark this thread for the crash back down to Earth in Baltimore this coming season...
They're record in 1 run games (29-9) and extra innings (16-2) was a once in a life-time situation. Even if those go back to average, the Orioles don't sniff the playoffs.
The rotation has a lot of questions. Chen going into his second tour of the league should be cause for concern too. We've seen a lot of Asian pitchers have a solid first season and then get hammered the following seasons. Gonzalez came out of no where, does that last? I remember Orioles' fans saying Brad Bergesen was the next big thing too... Tillman was awful before last year too, does that happen again? Which Hammel will show up? Saunders should be average as usual.
To me that's a lot of question marks and what if's in a starting rotation... The BP was great too, but you can't count on great BPs every year no matter what you do, too fickle.
They have some solid bats that shouldn't be a problem, though guys like Jones and Davis had career years, have to see where they go from here. The Orioles used a lot of smoke and mirrors and got performances from nobodies that it is hard to count on again.
They could take right where they left off last year, but personally I'm not betting on it. There will be a lot of hungry teams in this division that will not be taking the Orioles lightly any more. And if they put up those kind of numbers in one-run and extra inning games again, I'll eat my keyboard.
i'm not saying you're wrong either: but you can't say one (Orioles proven winners and healthy for... 1 season) and go 180 degrees on the other (Jays are injury prone for... 1 season) How is making the playoffs after x amount of years proven winners? proven winners = prolonged success over many years. injury prone = constantly injured over many seasons.
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As for the dodgers, they had half of those players for about a month and hanley and victorino for 2 months, plus they lost Bills in August and Kemp for extended periods of time, there was a point where Juan Rivera was hitting clean up because there was no one else. A lot went wrong last year.
I'm not going to sit here and be doom and gloom like every year before this as an O's fan. This is the first year i've seen my Orioles go over .500 and i'm 18 years old.