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  1. #1
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    DHB and Tommy kelly

    Is there any chance they are on the roster come Training Camp?

    DHB-7.7 million with all his bonus basically paid
    Tommy Kelly-6.5 million same bonus paid deal

    both have their bouses prorated as far as I know so we would have
    3 million of dead cap for kelly and
    4 million of dead cap for Bey...

    I think they are both as good as gone right now.

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    They're just two amongst dozens who'll be looking for a new home next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themadstork View Post
    They're just two amongst dozens who'll be looking for a new home next year.

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    God I hope so.....

    Take McChicken nugget legs with them...

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    They will be among the first group of players to be released in the offseason along with Seymour..

    [B]New York Yankees 27 World Championships.....need I say more?
    Oakland Raiders 3 Super Bowl Victories/rest of the AFC West 3 keep trying to catch up!

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    Trade these guys for anything people will give for them. When nobody will, just dump them.

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    I wouldn't mind DHB if he restructures. He is a hard worker and could be a nice number 3 receiver. Just not at the money he is making now...Kelly, Seymour and practically everyone else on that D can leave as far as I am concerned.

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    If Jacoby Ford ever heals up, I can see him being his replacement, with the other young guys as subs with Hagen.
    Last edited by dbacknick; 11-29-2012 at 01:38 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbacknick View Post
    If Jacoby Ford ever heals up, I can see him being his replacement, with the other young guys as subs with Hagen.
    **** Jacoby Ford. I figure we'll keep him and we all know he can be explosive but the guy is gonna get injured.

    I wouldn't count on him at all, like they shouldn't have this season. So sick of 'going with the young guys' at receiver. **** that. **** that in the *** with a big rubber d!ck, as George Carlin would say.

    Get a motherf'n vet receiver in here that can at least get open and move the chains. Carson needs a damn vet

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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnSU View Post
    I wouldn't mind DHB if he restructures. He is a hard worker and could be a nice number 3 receiver. Just not at the money he is making now...Kelly, Seymour and practically everyone else on that D can leave as far as I am concerned.
    even if dhb reconstructures he'll be making around 4 million. he isn't going to go from 7 million to 2 million.

    we dont need dhb, a lot of people work hard, we just aren't used to it because we have a lot of busts lol.

    DHB never panned out either though.

    We have moore/streater/ford/criner/hagan and some money to bring in a solid vet. Even if DHB comes back ill rather use his money to bring in another WR. I just feel like its time to move on from the past. We got to move a ton of players just to bring in fresh faces and a new feel from ****** football.

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    I think it's clear Criner will be a starter on this team sooner rather than later. He has the size and physical tools to be a #1. Look how much more he's been involved in the gameplan lately.

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    Cut em both loose neither guy makes the team better. Criner and Streeter look better than DHB in year 1. Kelly has had long enough to make an impact and now he is regressing. We can draft guys that make more of an impact than these 2 along with plenty of others.

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    We cleaned house with the Lb's and now it's time to start with the DL. We need to get rid of the cancers and players that don't give it their all. We should get rid of Kelly and trade Seymour for a late pick. We can't do any worse without them.

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    Seymour
    Kelly
    DHB
    Brisel
    Barnes
    Carlise
    Bartell
    Spencer
    Hanson

    All EASY cuts for me.

    Trade McFadden on draft day for picks.
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    Im unsure of Seymours contract.

    If you remember he restructured,His contract Info doesnt show any Guarenteed money, but I dont see how he would give up 15 million for a single season at 1 million and no guarentees?

    Im willing to bet there is some language that keeps him around somehow..

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephkyle7 View Post
    Im unsure of Seymours contract.

    If you remember he restructured,His contract Info doesnt show any Guarenteed money, but I dont see how he would give up 15 million for a single season at 1 million and no guarentees?

    Im willing to bet there is some language that keeps him around somehow..
    This may no longer be a question of finances, but constitution. He has missed games already this season and was given the "veteran treatment" for much of the offseason. Will Seymour's body be up to the grind of another full season at his age? I think not. It wouldn't surprise me if he retires.
    "Why can't we tell the world that [as the Raiders' coach] you refused to play games in the segregated South, holding out to the point where they were canceled?' And he would stop me dead in my tracks and say, 'Hey, kid -- I didn't do it for publicity. I did it because it was right.' "

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