Monster years with LA, but I'd let him choose b/c he did spent a lot of time with the Mets... speaking statistically though, he really was the best offensive catcher in history while w/ LA... he was just "very" good w/ the Mets.
He still played longer and ultimately accumulated more stats as a Met. He also still performed at a HOF level as a Met (in those 4 years or so before his age started to become a factor).
He also had by far his most memorable moments as a Met (World Series appearance, 9/11 Homerun, countless other big hits and big moments that define the memory and legacy of Mike Piazza).
His best years statistically were mostly as a Dodger, so its a good debate...but ultimately he should go in as a Met if you look at the entire picture.
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Stats and accolades wise, he was at his best with the Dodgers it seems, but when I think of Mike Piazza I think of the Mets. But that's also because I was a little kid and not watching baseball when he played in LA.
As much as I hate to say it, on paper, I've always felt he should go in as a Dodger. But he wants to go in as a Met, and that should be considered. Especially when it's a close debate.
"We're snakebitten, baby." --Fred Wilpon
So basically, he was still good enough in those prime years as a Met before he began to decline. In terms of the grand scope of his legacy and his production as a baseball player, just because more of his prime years were as a Dodger doesn't mean he should go in as a Dodger. He was with the Mets longer and still produced long enough at a HOF level to accumulate more volume stats with the Mets.
The memorable moments as a Dodger also don't quite match up with those as a Met...but I think you are fully aware of this.
I would let him pick.
obviously the mets
more stats and longer tenure
and i think it's easy to say that this memory or that memory was better coming from a bias perspective ie OURS
Though the time that Rodger Clemens threw a bat at him was in a mets uni.
and i think you know that he would have never been able to produce those memorable moments had the dodgers not drafted him in the 62nd round and had Tommy Lasorda not insisted that he could catch he wouldn't be the greatest hitting catcher ever(he came into the draft as a 1b, no one else would have made him Catch but Tommy) none of those things happen without Tommy and the dodgers(including the post 9/11 home run) i think your fully aware of this.
The bragging rights bottom line -- because that is all this thread is about -- to me is which team Piazza prefers. It's the Mets. So, no more sour grapes from L.A. fans, please.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/09/sp...azza.html?_r=0Piazza, who was in Manhattan to receive an award Saturday at the 25th annual Ellis Island Medals of Honor ceremony, will be eligible for the Hall of Fame in 2013. And although Major League Baseball will decide which team’s cap will be on his plaque, Piazza, who played the first seven years of his 16-year career with the Los Angeles Dodgers, said he would want to be inducted as a Met.
“The bulk of my career was with the Mets,” he said, “and after going through the trade, then the drama of 9/11. I’ll never forget my Dodger days. But my time with the Mets is what I’ll remember most about my career.”
Knowing the overall *shape* of an idea, argument, situation requires as many facts, models, opinions as you can take/make to see a whole.
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