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Couple of Packers circle jerkers in here. I have nothing against the Pack, and Rodgers is clearly an elite QB. Just because someone doesn't think he's the best doesn't mean he hates the Packers forever (omg terrible omg). I won't even bother arguing with either of you since your feelings just get hurt when someone says Packer player/coach X isn't the GOAT.
Brees isn't better than Rodgers. He's just not.
I didn't even care about your McCarthy comment. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But then I see that and Rodgers and I start to wonder.
That being said, Brady is the best QB in the NFL still. But Brees is not better than Rodgers. I don't even know how anyone could defend that stance.
Obviously they are very close and resaonable people can disagree (despite what your homer glasses say) but I like Brees because he's a complete QB. Rodgers is a nice scrambler and an accurate passer but he struggles without a run game and in obvious passing downs. That's probably part of the reason he has 2 4th quarter comebacks in the last 3 years (Brees has 8).
Brees has a higher INT% and lower TD% because he is basically the entirety of his offense. The run game is manufactured off of his arm, which is part of the reason he has 500 more attempts than Rodgers since 2008. PSD likes to say it's "dumping off" but if it were really that easy every single QB in the league would do it. It requires quick decision-making and really the only other QB in the league that has decision-making quick enough to do it is Brady (but he lacks the mobility for it).
Rodgers, on the other hand, is more of an elite Tony Romo type of QB (or Steve Young if you think I'm trying to disparage his style by comparing it to Romo). His decision-making isn't as quick except in timing routes but his scrambling and accuracy allows him to make plays other QBs can't.
Finally, Brees has had a worst cast around him on offense virtually every year until arguably last year (when he got Jimmy Graham). I'm sure you'll try to tell me that Colston is elite or Darren Sproles but it's just not the case. Colston would have had a solid career as a possession receiver because of his size but he would never have looked like a #1 without a QB like Brees (or Rodgers, to be fair). Sproles was a gimmick until he came to NO. Meachem was a dangerous deep threat until he went to San Diego (ironic since Rivers has the better arm). Lance Moore was undrafted. Etc., etc.
Like I said though, reasonable people can disagree. You're a Packers fan so obviously you do, But continually asserting that "Rodgers is just better he just is there is no argument he just is" doesn't make you any more convincing or intelligent.
I'll take Aaron Rodgers over him every day of the week. So would 75% of NFL fans, at least.
Last edited by Norm; 12-10-2012 at 01:02 PM.
Oh I'm sorry, I thought you came here to debate this. I guess it was just to complain to your Packers buddy that someone disagrees with you about Rodgers. Well qq
Alright so let's count all those. All of them, everyone but you. Rodgers over Brees.
Now here's all the Brees over Rodgers posts.
11 out of 12 have Rodgers over Brees. That didn't even count my vote.
I take back my 75% it's more like 90%
I'll be awaiting your next round of backhanded insults.
The way to win an argument is an appeal to the majority opinion.
Brady is 4th because he lacks mobility or elusiveness at this point and outside of Belichick's system I don't have faith he could still be better than the other 3. In his prime Brady was equal to, and sometimes better than, Peyton.
Jets fan? Please. There's not a thing I like about any New York team except Tom Coughlin (but I do believe in Eli).