Robert Griffin III
Some people on here dont understand how big of an impact Luck makes. Hes being asked to make much longer throws at a more consistent rate. Hes has been asked to make much more difficult reads in Bruce Arians offense. More often than not he is successful, but sometimes hell make a rookie mistake, or a reciever will tip the ball to a defender. The throws that are interceptions are rarely bad throws, they are usually just forced early reads. All of this is without talking about how badly the offensive line has played this year. Some of those picks happened because the hasnt played well for the most part. He gets hit A LOT. There have already been 7 fines for hits against him this season. Injuries and a lack of continuity have really played into our line being unpredictable from one play to the next.
His 3rd and long percentage is pretty astounding, not only because of the offensive line, but because for some reason when the running game isnt working Arians likes to run on 1st and 2nd and Luck is forced to bail us out. Or from time to time, Arians will go with a screen (usually bubble) on first or second, then run for almost no yards, then Luck has to bail us out. He hits beautiful strikes downfield and like RG3 turns blown plays into positive yards.
He has the ability to move around the pocket kind of like Roethlisburger and can make powerful and accurate throws on the run or with a DL literally pulling him to the ground.
All of this and i havent even mentioned how effective he is running the two minute drill, or the fact that he has the calm and demeanor of Tom Brady. Or how much this 'transformed' defense has looked like a tony Dungy bend but dont break defense. Or the fact that our defense has forced the fewest turnovers in the NFL.
The only way to truly understand Lucks's play vs Lucks numbers is to watch every game he has played in this year. Good and bad, he is learning from his mistakes and getting better every game.
Last edited by ombada; 12-09-2012 at 09:56 AM.
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redskins could easily be 8-4 if it wasnt for morgan costing the rams game an then def letting that huge cruz td so don't tell me about records, they are 2 different style of qb's and sorry but stats count when it comes to awards, trust me luck will be an mvp someday but he shouldn't be the rookie of the year
2. Russell Wilson
That's how I see it. And it is very possible for Wilson to eclipse RG3 if his team makes the playoffs and he has a monster game or 2.
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Stats wise, Luck is barely better than Mark Sanchez. Seriously, his TD-INT is horrible and is passing rating is in the mid 70s.
I definitely agree. I'm not really talking about ROY when I defend Luck at all. Just pointing out so many people that crap on them only recite stats. Makes me believe pretty strongly they don't watch him play. Only looked up his stats.All of this is true, but I think OROY is basically an individual stat contest. As much as I think Luck will be the better QB of this draft class, you can't take credit from RG3 for his offensive scheme, nor can you give credit to Luck for having potential/not running a college scheme and having a top 5 rusher. If you discredit RG3 for his zone-read, Wilson is playing in a pretty normal offense and doing arguably better than Luck. I don't think it's even possible to put Luck in the discussion for OROY given the seasons some of the other rookies are having.
Like this guy above me.
I will but it this way. I am perfectly happy with luck playing 16 games and breaking all the rookie yardage stats and completions not to mention breaking mannings rookie records. The redskins can have rg3 and his nack for getting himself hurt.
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and btw they are both stud rookies and are gonna have amazing careers
If RG3 learns how to avoid danger him.
"I tell you what -- Russell's a mental giant," said Sherman. "When the ball didn't bounce his way, he didn't go in the tank and say, 'Woe is me.' He stepped up when we needed him most and he won the game for us. I'm not sure people get how great he is. I hope they get it now."
Last edited by Pacerlive; 12-09-2012 at 06:04 PM.
As I've already stated, I don't think players can be judged only on stats, but Luck's stats were bad, he was bad, and he should feel bad, because he almost lost to a team that is bad.
Completed less than 50% of his passes again, threw a pick six, and had one of the most ******** interceptions I've ever seen.
I just don't see how Luck is in the OROY argument at this point.
And down goes RG3...