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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by The A Team View Post
    We do have a logjam of C prospects. Valle is generally considered to be ahead of Joseph at this point, although the skill sets are quite similar.

    Catcher is a hard position to fill and there is no guarantee that any of these guys pan out. It may be best to hang onto them. We should be open to trading from that depth, but not for a middle reliever.
    There's a difference between a middle reliever and one of the best setup men in the league who is one hell of a value at his contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koldjerky View Post
    Ok absolutely dream scenario here. Don't know what has me in this mood but whatever.

    Trade brown, Worley, Biddle/may, Valle, and some one else for Choo/Cabrera and Masterson (preferably Choo)

    Then trade Lee, Ruf, Asche plus cash for Meyers and Moustakus and Frenchie

    I'd have to look into the KC deal since we'd probably have to add more buuuuuttt...

    C: Chooch
    1b: Howard
    2b: Utley
    SS Rollins
    3b Mouse
    LF: Schierholtz/Frenchie/Mayberry
    Cf: Myers
    RF Choo

    Sp Halladay
    Sp hamels
    Sp Masterson
    Sp Kendrick
    Sp cloyd/FA pick up

    Would be nice. We'd have gotten a lot better and younger and lowered salary immensely.
    I wouldn't do the Indians deal in that form. We would we giving up a significant amount for an above average outfielder and a middle of the rotation starter.

    KC would and absolutely should laugh at us if we offered them that deal. On top of that, we would have to eat the majority of Lee's contract to make it remotely plausible... which it isn't in any way.

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    sweeten the pot with Polanco

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    Wilton is a very good pickup....for cheap. Of the radar and creative... really like the move... I didnt even think of him because i didnt think Houston could part with him...since they are now without a closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illa215 View Post
    There's a difference between a middle reliever and one of the best setup men in the league who is one hell of a value at his contract.
    We're talking about Wilton Lopez still, right? A guy who is a useful reliever on a contract that might be as much as $2.5 mil below market.

    He's a good reliever, but he's a guy you use as a setup man only if you have to. He's much better suited for a middle relief role.

    I expect Aumont and Bastardo to get first crack at the 8th inning, assuming someone else isn't added.
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    Jordan Walden is supposedly available now. I'd love to see the Phillies check in on that.
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    Rumored to be Cloyd and Catching spec

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    Ugh that.

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    Brookover reporting the Stros are now entertaining other offers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The A Team View Post
    We're talking about Wilton Lopez still, right? A guy who is a useful reliever on a contract that might be as much as $2.5 mil below market.

    He's a good reliever, but he's a guy you use as a setup man only if you have to. He's much better suited for a middle relief role.

    I expect Aumont and Bastardo to get first crack at the 8th inning, assuming someone else isn't added.
    Why? He's performed well in a late inning relief role before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael6BT View Post
    Brookover reporting the Stros are now entertaining other offers.
    Salisbury speculated that they found something during his physical. Apparently had an elbow issue last season. Took physical yesterday.

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    The same Wilton lopz that could be a fluke and had shoulder problems? no thanx


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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesJackson10 View Post
    Why? He's performed well in a late inning relief role before.
    Given his skill set, he hasn't been in the league long enough to prove he is a reliable option in that role. Most of his value is tied up in not allowing walks.
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    If its for Cloyd and Vaile/Joseph for a decent reliever...which have millions of in are system I'll be pissed as usual. Hopefully it doesnt go through.
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    looks like deal is falling apart
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