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    Is Gostkowski's position on the Patriots in jeopardy?

    Is Gostkowski's position on the Patriots in jeopardy?

    His misses are becoming a trend. Is this a bump in the road the Patriots will ride out or are they reaching the limit?

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    not as of yet. no one is going to make a deal out of missed kicks during the season unless their in the 4th quarter in a tight game. his FG% is better than guys like Barth, Prater, Vinateri, Akers, Crosby etc who are all considered pretty good kickers if you ask me.
    if we lose a playoff game because of him, there's a good chance he's gone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportfan View Post
    not as of yet. no one is going to make a deal out of missed kicks during the season unless their in the 4th quarter in a tight game. his FG% is better than guys like Barth, Prater, Vinateri, Akers, Crosby etc who are all considered pretty good kickers if you ask me.
    if we lose a playoff game because of him, there's a good chance he's gone
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    SG's security on this team is based on his performance vs. that of other available kickers.

    So in short, no.

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    I thought the title said 'Gronkowski' not Gostkowski. I was wondering WTF this thread was all about.

    Anyway...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sportfan View Post
    not as of yet. no one is going to make a deal out of missed kicks during the season unless their in the 4th quarter in a tight game. his FG% is better than guys like Barth, Prater, Vinateri, Akers, Crosby etc who are all considered pretty good kickers if you ask me.
    if we lose a playoff game because of him, there's a good chance he's gone
    This.

    Quote Originally Posted by Patsfan56 View Post
    SG's security on this team is based on his performance vs. that of other available kickers.

    So in short, no.
    And this.

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    I would gladly take Gostkowski over Crosby any day. Those of you who actually think Crosby is a good kicker obviously hasn't watched a packer game yet.
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    Andy Gresh put it perfectly on the post game show. He basically said fans after a Gostkowski miss always say "owh my gawd he missed it"(Boston accent) and don't recognize how well he's been compared to other kickers in the league this season. I know it's Andy Gresh that said this, but he's still right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigCheese21 View Post
    I would gladly take Gostkowski over Crosby any day. Those of you who actually think Crosby is a good kicker obviously hasn't watched a packer game yet.
    Yea he's been **** this year but he's usually been more solid, and a decent kicker, I was just listing guys with below normal FG%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sportfan View Post
    Yea he's been **** this year but he's usually been more solid, and a decent kicker, I was just listing guys with below normal FG%
    He has had 1 decent year surrounded with with mediocre ones. This year he is just god awful. Today he hit a 30 yarder that hit the upright before going in. He missed a 53 yarder before halftime and then on the opening kickoff to start the 3rd quarter he kicked the ball out of bounds. He missed the game tying FG against the Colts and he missed a tone of field goals against the Lions that almost cost us that game.

    All i am saying is be happy you guys have a solid kicker. I would love to have a kicker like Gostkowski right about now.
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    During games I might blow steam about SG, but all in all, he's a pretty good kicker. He's not going to hit every one. Just was in a slump. But if this "slump" extends on to us losing games, 4th quarter "necessities", and playoff games, count him out. But as of right now, nah he's fine. When those misses are in critical games is when we have to worry. This Texans game is one of those critical ones. If he costs the game for us, he might be on a short leash with BB. We'll just have to see how he does. Could be worse. No need to panic right now.
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    Wasn't there a Gostkowski thread up last year talking about the same thing? I'm getting deja vu...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincent33 View Post
    Wasn't there a Gostkowski thread up last year talking about the same thing? I'm getting deja vu...
    If he misses a FG, people begin to **** themselves in a fit of nervous anxiety.

    I will ask again. If not SG, who? Who will we bring in that is performing better now than he is?

    I really wish there were more folks in here who have been watching the Pats since before 2000. People do not realize how good this period is right now.

    He missed a 49 yard attempt. People act as though he sucks. If you want to see sucakge, try watching during the late 1980's and early 1990s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patsfan56 View Post
    If he misses a FG, people begin to **** themselves in a fit of nervous anxiety.

    I will ask again. If not SG, who? Who will we bring in that is performing better now than he is?

    I really wish there were more folks in here who have been watching the Pats since before 2000. People do not realize how good this period is right now.

    He missed a 49 yard attempt. People act as though he sucks. If you want to see sucakge, try watching during the late 1980's and early 1990s.
    this.

    a 49 yd fg is no chip shot... some younger generation have become spoiled.
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    Well, comparing to the past players when past players weren't as good is pretty much a fools errand. The comparison must be to his contemporaries. He is 25th league wide based on %. So in the off-season will they draft a guy? Surely they will bring in a FA or two, but draft a guy? Is this a slump or something more sinister?

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    Rk                 Player Year Age Draft  Tm  Lg     G     XPM XPA    XP% FGM FGA    FG% Pts
    1             Kai Forbath 2012  25       WAS NFL     7      19  20  95.0%  11  11 100.0%  52
    2             Graham Gano 2012  25       CAR NFL     2       6   7  85.7%   1   1 100.0%   9
    3            Nate Kaeding 2012  30  3-65 SDG NFL     3       6   6 100.0%   7   7 100.0%  27
    4           Shaun Suisham 2012  31       PIT NFL    12      24  24 100.0%  24  25  96.0%  96
    5             Phil Dawson 2012  37       CLE NFL    12      22  22 100.0%  23  24  95.8%  91
    6             Alex Henery 2012  25 4-120 PHI NFL    12      19  20  95.0%  22  23  95.7%  85
    7             Josh Scobee 2012  30 5-137 JAX NFL    12      14  15  93.3%  20  21  95.2%  74
    8            Rian Lindell 2012  35       BUF NFL    12      32  32 100.0%  17  18  94.4%  83
    9    Sebastian Janikowski 2012  34  1-17 OAK NFL    12      21  21 100.0%  24  26  92.3%  93
    10          Justin Tucker 2012  23       BAL NFL    12      31  31 100.0%  24  26  92.3% 103
    11             Dan Bailey 2012  24       DAL NFL    12      27  27 100.0%  23  25  92.0%  96
    12           Jason Hanson 2012  42  2-56 DET NFL    12      31  31 100.0%  25  28  89.3% 106
    13            Ryan Succop 2012  26 7-256 KAN NFL    12      15  15 100.0%  25  28  89.3%  90
    14         Lawrence Tynes 2012  34       NYG NFL    12      31  31 100.0%  32  36  88.9% 127
    15            Blair Walsh 2012  22 6-175 MIN NFL    12      24  24 100.0%  24  27  88.9%  96
    16              Jay Feely 2012  36       ARI NFL    12      18  18 100.0%  20  23  87.0%  78
    17             Nick Novak 2012  31       SDG NFL     9      22  22 100.0%  13  15  86.7%  61
    18            Matt Bryant 2012  37       ATL NFL    12      32  32 100.0%  29  34  85.3% 119
    19        Steven Hauschka 2012  27       SEA NFL    12      26  27  96.3%  16  19  84.2%  74
    20            Rob Bironas 2012  34       TEN NFL    12      25  25 100.0%  21  25  84.0%  88
    21           Robbie Gould 2012  30       CHI NFL    12      31  31 100.0%  21  25  84.0%  94
    22            Mike Nugent 2012  30  2-47 CIN NFL    12      35  35 100.0%  19  23  82.6%  92
    23           Connor Barth 2012  26       TAM NFL    12      34  34 100.0%  23  28  82.1% 103
    24          Shayne Graham 2012  35       HOU NFL    12      40  40 100.0%  21  26  80.8% 103
    25     Stephen Gostkowski 2012  28 4-118 NWE NFL    12      50  50 100.0%  24  30  80.0% 122
    26        Garrett Hartley 2012  26       NOR NFL    12      40  40 100.0%  11  14  78.6%  73
    27          Greg Zuerlein 2012  25 6-171 STL NFL    12      18  18 100.0%  21  27  77.8%  81
    28          Dan Carpenter 2012  27       MIA NFL    12      24  24 100.0%  17  22  77.3%  75
    29            Matt Prater 2012  28       DEN NFL    12      40  40 100.0%  17  22  77.3%  91
    30              Nick Folk 2012  28 6-178 NYJ NFL    12      25  25 100.0%  15  20  75.0%  70
    31         Adam Vinatieri 2012  40       IND NFL    12      26  26 100.0%  21  28  75.0%  89
    32            David Akers 2012  38       SFO NFL    12      32  32 100.0%  21  30  70.0%  95
    33         Justin Medlock 2012  29 5-160 CAR NFL    10      23  23 100.0%   7  10  70.0%  44
    34           Mason Crosby 2012  28 6-194 GNB NFL    12      33  33 100.0%  15  24  62.5%  78
    35          Billy Cundiff 2012  32       WAS NFL     5      17  17 100.0%   7  12  58.3%  38
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    Quote Originally Posted by subroc View Post
    Well, comparing to the past players when past players weren't as good is pretty much a fools errand. The comparison must be to his contemporaries. He is 25th league wide based on %. So in the off-season will they draft a guy? Surely they will bring in a FA or two, but draft a guy? Is this a slump or something more sinister?

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    Rk                 Player Year Age Draft  Tm  Lg     G     XPM XPA    XP% FGM FGA    FG% Pts
    1             Kai Forbath 2012  25       WAS NFL     7      19  20  95.0%  11  11 100.0%  52
    2             Graham Gano 2012  25       CAR NFL     2       6   7  85.7%   1   1 100.0%   9
    3            Nate Kaeding 2012  30  3-65 SDG NFL     3       6   6 100.0%   7   7 100.0%  27
    4           Shaun Suisham 2012  31       PIT NFL    12      24  24 100.0%  24  25  96.0%  96
    5             Phil Dawson 2012  37       CLE NFL    12      22  22 100.0%  23  24  95.8%  91
    6             Alex Henery 2012  25 4-120 PHI NFL    12      19  20  95.0%  22  23  95.7%  85
    7             Josh Scobee 2012  30 5-137 JAX NFL    12      14  15  93.3%  20  21  95.2%  74
    8            Rian Lindell 2012  35       BUF NFL    12      32  32 100.0%  17  18  94.4%  83
    9    Sebastian Janikowski 2012  34  1-17 OAK NFL    12      21  21 100.0%  24  26  92.3%  93
    10          Justin Tucker 2012  23       BAL NFL    12      31  31 100.0%  24  26  92.3% 103
    11             Dan Bailey 2012  24       DAL NFL    12      27  27 100.0%  23  25  92.0%  96
    12           Jason Hanson 2012  42  2-56 DET NFL    12      31  31 100.0%  25  28  89.3% 106
    13            Ryan Succop 2012  26 7-256 KAN NFL    12      15  15 100.0%  25  28  89.3%  90
    14         Lawrence Tynes 2012  34       NYG NFL    12      31  31 100.0%  32  36  88.9% 127
    15            Blair Walsh 2012  22 6-175 MIN NFL    12      24  24 100.0%  24  27  88.9%  96
    16              Jay Feely 2012  36       ARI NFL    12      18  18 100.0%  20  23  87.0%  78
    17             Nick Novak 2012  31       SDG NFL     9      22  22 100.0%  13  15  86.7%  61
    18            Matt Bryant 2012  37       ATL NFL    12      32  32 100.0%  29  34  85.3% 119
    19        Steven Hauschka 2012  27       SEA NFL    12      26  27  96.3%  16  19  84.2%  74
    20            Rob Bironas 2012  34       TEN NFL    12      25  25 100.0%  21  25  84.0%  88
    21           Robbie Gould 2012  30       CHI NFL    12      31  31 100.0%  21  25  84.0%  94
    22            Mike Nugent 2012  30  2-47 CIN NFL    12      35  35 100.0%  19  23  82.6%  92
    23           Connor Barth 2012  26       TAM NFL    12      34  34 100.0%  23  28  82.1% 103
    24          Shayne Graham 2012  35       HOU NFL    12      40  40 100.0%  21  26  80.8% 103
    25     Stephen Gostkowski 2012  28 4-118 NWE NFL    12      50  50 100.0%  24  30  80.0% 122
    26        Garrett Hartley 2012  26       NOR NFL    12      40  40 100.0%  11  14  78.6%  73
    27          Greg Zuerlein 2012  25 6-171 STL NFL    12      18  18 100.0%  21  27  77.8%  81
    28          Dan Carpenter 2012  27       MIA NFL    12      24  24 100.0%  17  22  77.3%  75
    29            Matt Prater 2012  28       DEN NFL    12      40  40 100.0%  17  22  77.3%  91
    30              Nick Folk 2012  28 6-178 NYJ NFL    12      25  25 100.0%  15  20  75.0%  70
    31         Adam Vinatieri 2012  40       IND NFL    12      26  26 100.0%  21  28  75.0%  89
    32            David Akers 2012  38       SFO NFL    12      32  32 100.0%  21  30  70.0%  95
    33         Justin Medlock 2012  29 5-160 CAR NFL    10      23  23 100.0%   7  10  70.0%  44
    34           Mason Crosby 2012  28 6-194 GNB NFL    12      33  33 100.0%  15  24  62.5%  78
    35          Billy Cundiff 2012  32       WAS NFL     5      17  17 100.0%   7  12  58.3%  38
    </PRE>
    Ahahaha Billy Cundiff is last
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