But still the way the SEC is regarded by CFB fans and the way A&M played the last few years in the B12 I wouldn't have thought they would dominate even the middle of the pack teams in the SEC, freshman sensation QB or not.
and how is stating the truth make me bitter? Texas A&M was a big12 school that went in the supossedly dominate and superior SEC and instantly found success. thats a fact, so i dont see how that makes me "bitter". That proves that the SEC is not light years ahead of everyone else. better sure, but the gap is not nearly as big as people make it out to be
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I only used the word "bitter" because you and a couple of others in this forum are those who have routinely shot down or criticized the SEC every chance you've had and it's seemingly unprovoked at times.and how is stating the truth make me bitter? Texas A&M was a big12 school that went in the supossedly dominate and superior SEC and instantly found success. thats a fact, so i dont see how that makes me "bitter". That proves that the SEC is not light years ahead of everyone else. better sure, but the gap is not nearly as big as people make it out to be
Any rational SEC fan realizes the gap between our conference and others is nowhere near as high as entities like the media make it out to be. A team with great players can beat any other team with great players, regardless of the conference affiliation. Texas A&M has two All-American caliber offensive lineman, a Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback and they've been recruiting in arguably the hottest of all the recruiting hotbeds for as long as their program has existed. Given those circumstances, is anyone surprised they enjoyed success in their first year in the conference?
Florida and LSU outclassed Ohio State in 2006 and 2007. But '08 Florida and '09 Alabama were the two best teams in this string of SEC National Champions and a few different possessions could have resulted in Oklahoma and/or Texas winning those games instead. Oregon could very easily have beaten Auburn two years ago. Any SEC fan who's been watching realizes and appreciates how fortunate, at times, this streak has been.
Thu, Aug 30 at Louisiana Tech Ppd.
Sat, Sep 8 (24) Florida L 17-20 (11-1)
Sat, Sep 15 at Southern Methodist W 48-3
Sat, Sep 22 South Carolina State W 70-14
Sat, Sep 29 Arkansas W 58-10 (4-8)
Sat, Oct 6 at Mississippi W 30-27 (6-6)
Sat, Oct 13 at Louisiana Tech W 59-57
Sat, Oct 20 (6) LSU L 19-24 (10-2)
Sat, Oct 27 at Auburn W 63-21 (3-9)
Sat, Nov 3 at (15) Mississippi State W 38-13 (8-4)
Sat, Nov 10 at (1) Alabama W 29-24 (12-1)
Sat, Nov 17 Sam Houston State W 47-28
Sat, Nov 24 Missouri W 59-29 (5-7)
One of the things you constantly leave out in A&M's success in the SEC is the fact that they have a Heisman Trophy winner on their team. A Heisman Trophy winner that is the difference maker on their team. A lot of teams have had Heisman Trophy winners, but all of them were not difference makers. Some that were difference makers that I recall were Bo Jackson - Auburn, Herschel Walker - Georgia, Peyton Manning - Tennessee, etc.
The best Heisman difference maker in recent memory has to be Cam Newton. I remember watching Auburn squeak out a lucky win against Northwestern in their bowl the season before Newton should up there. I would have bet my house that sorry team wouldn't sniff a BCS championship in 2010. Cam was worth whatever they paid him. Also Manning didn't win the Heisman.
i dont critize the SEC except for that one statement that they are not as good as people say. i agree they are the best conference, but they are not light years ahead.
the heisman is a joke award. how can you without a doubt say manziel didnt get extra support for being on an SEC team? you can't. everyone knows how you team fairs ahs something to do with your heisman candiacy, the award is basically meaningless at this point
The point I'm trying to make about A&M is that people say they were a mediocre in the Big 12 and came into the SEC and are an instant success. The only reason, IMO, they were as successful as they were is because of Manziel. Take Manziel off the team and they lose to Bama, Lousiana Tech, and Mississippi which would make them a 5 loss team. Now put A&M back in the Big 12 for this season and they are possibly the conference title winner, or at the minimum in the #2 slot. What does that say about the Big 12? A&M is #5 in the SEC and would be #1, or 2 in the Big 12.
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Perhaps you remember a player named Joe Montana? I would say one player can come in and have a huge impact on a team. That player can be the difference between a team having a winning season, or a mediocre season.