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    SEC Overrated?

    I look at the BCS Rankings and see 6 SEC teams in the top 14. I started trying to remember all those big non-conference games SEC teams must have won in order for them to all be ranked so high. So I did a little research and this was what I found:

    Alabama-Michigan, Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, Western Carolina

    Arkansas-Jacksonville State, Tulsa-----lost to Louisiana-Monroe and Rutgers

    Auburn-Louisiana-Monroe, New Mexico State, Alabama A&M----lost to Clemson

    Florida-Bowling Green, Louisiana-Lafayette, Jacksonville State, Florida State

    Georgia-Buffalo, Florida Atlantic, Georgia Southern, Georgia Tech

    Kentucky-Kent State, Samford----lost to Louisville and Western Kentucky

    LSU-North Texas, Washington, Idaho, Towson

    Mississippi State-Jackson State, Troy, South Alabama, Middle Tennessee

    Missouri-Southeast Louisiana, Arizona State, UCF---lost to Syracuse

    Ole Miss-Central Arkansas, UTEP, Tulane---lost to Texas

    South Carolina-East Carolina, UAB, Wofford, Clemson

    Tennessee-North Carolina State, Georgia State, Akron, Troy

    Texas A&M-SMU, South Carolina State, Louisiana Tech, Sam Houston State

    Vanderbilt-Presbyterian, Massachusetts, Wake Forest---lost to Northwestern

    So breaking it down the key wins for the SEC are Alabama over Michigan (8-4), Florida over Florida State (10-2), Georgia over Georgia Tech (6-6), LSU over Washington (7-5), Missouri over Arizona State (7-5), and South Carolina over Clemson (10-2).

    There are really only 3 impressive wins in the bunch in my opinion, Florida State, Clemson, and Michigan-----the rest were mediocre to very bad teams.


    So, why are there 6 SEC teams ranked in the BCS top 14 when the conference has such a dismal and unimpressive non-conference schedule? Is it because of past reputation? Could it be their bowl games performances, which all happen to be in SEC states?

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    Perception is reality. Until other top teams (Ohio State, Oregon, Oklahoma, etc) start beating the SEC's best nothing will change.

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    The SEC lives entirely on reputation, perception, and consistently having 2 legit top 5 teams. The conference as a entire entity is disturbingly over rated, thank you ESPN and your biased programing/commentators.

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    I am a Razorback fan but even I must admit that the majority of SEC is not nearly as good as ESPN's hype machine trys to convince everyone they are. They should not have that many teams ranked at all let alone as high as they are.

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    You do realize they play easier non-conference games because their in season opponents are that much tougher than most of the other programs and conferences, right?

    You need to make sure you have a few wins in hand when you know that, no matter what, you're going to get a few top 15 teams on your schedule every year and a possible surprise top 15 team (like an A&M or Miss St).

    There is, however, a big disparity between the top and the bottom. You've got about half the teams who are awesome.....then you have your UT's, Arkansas, UK and Ole Miss right now....who are just plain out bad.
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    Except no one knows they have a hard in conference schedule because they never face good out of conference teams ever since got tired of USC embarrassing them and teamed with ESPN to create a myth of how good they are without proving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shen View Post
    Except no one knows they have a hard in conference schedule because they never face good out of conference teams ever since got tired of USC embarrassing them and teamed with ESPN to create a myth of how good they are without proving it.
    Except in the National Championship game and they won the last 6. Frankly, that speaks volumes, no matter how much everyone tries to downplay it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shen View Post
    Except no one knows they have a hard in conference schedule because they never face good out of conference teams ever since got tired of USC embarrassing them and teamed with ESPN to create a myth of how good they are without proving it.
    I'm sorry, but the SEC doesn't owe it to anyone (no team does) to "prove it". They do that in the bowl games. And if they weren't as good as they are, they wouldn't win the Title game every year. The regular season is a tool to get to the Title. With the playoff system being implemented, we'll then have the playoffs to "prove it".

    The one thing I'll give NCAAF is they usually get the best two teams to face off in the title game. The best of the SEC beats the best of anyone else usually. Not always. But usually.

    This year, who is realistically better than Alabama, Florida, Georgia and SC? How many teams are better than the first 3? Notre Dame? Maybe better then two of them. Stanford? Oregon? K-State? Who's better? That's kind of the problem. I think this year, Notre Dame, Alabama, Florida and Georgia are the four best teams. It's really hard to call the SEC overrated having 3 of the top 4.

    Again, they're very top heavy. You've got 4-6 teams who...well...suck. And suck bad. So in the sense that it's the deepest conference....I'd agree in claiming it's overrated in that sense. It is top heavy. But the conference on the whole has a handful of the best teams in it, and no other conference can say that, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shen
    Except no one knows they have a hard in conference schedule because they never face good out of conference teams
    Some teams like Bama and LSU travel to play other major conference teams. Others face ACC/in-state rivals every year who should be holding up their end of the bargain. It's not the SEC's fault those teams suck.

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    Below is a list of the top 15 teams in the nation. Now I am just curious. Which SEC teams are ranked too high? Which ones shouldn't be in the top 10?

    1) Notre Dame (12-0)
    2) Alabama (11-1)
    3) Georgia (11-1)
    4) Florida (11-1)
    5) Oregon (11-1)
    6) Kansas St. (10-1)
    7) LSU (10-2)
    8) Stanford (10-2)
    9) Texas A&M (10-2)
    10) South Carolina (10-2)
    11) Oklahoma (9-2)
    12) Nebraska (10-2)
    13) Florida St. (10-2)
    14) Clemson (10-2)
    15) Oregon St. (8-3)
    Last edited by Wingman; 11-27-2012 at 09:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingman View Post
    Below is a list of the top 15 teams in the nation. Now I am just curious. Which SEC teams are ranked too high? Which ones shouldn't be in the top 10?

    1) Notre Dame (12-0)
    2) Alabama (11-1)
    3) Georgia (11-1)
    4) Florida (11-1)
    5) Oregon (11-1)
    6) Kansas St. (10-1)
    7) LSU (10-2)
    8) Stanford (10-2)
    9) Texas A&M (10-2)
    10) South Carolina (10-2)
    11) Oklahoma (9-2)
    12) Nebraska (10-2)
    13) Florida St. (10-2)
    14) Clemson (10-2)
    15) Oregon St. (8-3)
    LSU is too high, georgia is too high, texas a&m should not count as an SEC team since they wer ein the big 12 last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinstripe power View Post
    LSU is too high, georgia is too high, texas a&m should not count as an SEC team since they wer ein the big 12 last year.
    huh??? they played an SEC schedule this year and beat a #1 team. what does last year have to do with their achievements now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe View Post
    huh??? they played an SEC schedule this year and beat a #1 team. what does last year have to do with their achievements now?
    that proves the SEC is overrated. they were in the big 12 last year, a suppsoedly inferior conference, and move to the SEC and immedatiely excel. how much better can the SEC really be if they can come in and do that?
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    People can say what they want about the SEC, but if the BCS didn't have tie-ins to the bowls, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, LSU, Texas A&M, and South Carolina would ALL be in a BCS bowl. It is a crying shame that 4/6th of those teams are going to be left out
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    I admitted every year SEC has two legit top 5 teams. I am not denying that. Usually some combo of Alabama, LSU, and Florida. However rest conference including my Hogs are usually above average but not stop 15 worthy. This year little stronger then others but still over rated.

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