Week 13 Sunday Football: San Francisco 49ers (8-2-1) @ St Louis Rams (4-6-1)

[RedandGold_35]

It wasn't a "scoring play" it was a penalty - the penalty resulted in a safety. Fine line, but that was the line.

And by asking about a challenge doesn't that make it unreviewable, I still don't understand that rule, but I mean they can review if a ball is tipped on a PI call can't they?

[bigcheeze]

And by asking about a challenge doesn't that make it unreviewable, I still don't understand that rule, but I mean they can review if a ball is tipped on a PI call can't they?

Penalty's aren't reviewable.

Not sure on the tipped ball for a PI.... The rules get complicated... that's why the refs keep F'n them up.

[RedandGold_35]

Penalty's aren't reviewable.

Not sure on the tipped ball for a PI.... The rules get complicated... that's why the refs keep F'n them up.

I could swear that the tipped ball thing is reviewable because it happens technically before the penalty. Most other, if not all, aren't tho. I would think that the situation in our game should be, because the ball passes the line which means the penalty shouldn't have been called, I dunno, more stuff for the competition committee.

[Greedy22]

My wife made an interesting point just now, if all scoring plays are reviewed, why wasn't the safety reviewed? Correct me if I'm wrong, but a safety puts points on the board, thus a "scoring play."

It was a penalty that resulted in points, but I think it should still be reviewable. It's another rule that makes no ****ing sense.

[OREcoast49er]

It was a penalty that resulted in points, but I think it should still be reviewable. It's another rule that makes no ****ing sense.

Exactly. Resulted in a scoring play.

[NinerHomer49]

Exactly. Resulted in a scoring play.

I understand the whole "can't review a judgement call" thing. What bothers me in this case is that the replay would not effect judgement. It would show where the ball landed which isn't a "judgement call". It's a "fact". Pretty black and white. Did the ball land at the 17 yard line or further or not. The NFL has flubbed at least 2 teams in important situations in two weeks. Lions last week and now the Niners.

[nutty]

You say "he's definitely one of the best on our team" and you compare him to Ted Ginn Jr.

He's not even the 4th best receiving option on this team.
Crabtree
Manningham
V.D.
Delanie Walker

There is no argument (since this year started) that Moss is better at catching/blocking than those 4 receivers.

There's no reason why we don't take a shot down the field at least once a game to Moss. He still has the speed. I personally feel that Moss could be higher in your list if given the chance. I think he still has good hands, saved CK an INT last week.

Then again, I've been complaining that we haven't given our play makers enough opportunities all season. Too much gimmicky stuff. Seriously, how does VD only have 2 catches for 15 yards in 2 weeks? I blame Roman.

[nutty]

* Once ball sailed over Ginn's head, Ginn tried to pick the ball up and run. Ginn should have just fell on the ball, would have resulted in pretty big loss of yards, but would have saved the TD. Fail.

I definitely put all of that on Roman.

Personally, I don't blame Ginn for not falling on the ball. It seemed like it took a bad bounce towards the sideline once Ginn got close. Like it was heading towards the endzone, then at the last second, right turn Clyde and went towards the sideline. If anything, it seemed like it would have been easier to just kick it out of the back of the endzone or the sideline.

[nutty]

I understand the whole "can't review a judgement call" thing. What bothers me in this case is that the replay would not effect judgement. It would show where the ball landed which isn't a "judgement call". It's a "fact". Pretty black and white. Did the ball land at the 17 yard line or further or not. The NFL has flubbed at least 2 teams in important situations in two weeks. Lions last week and now the Niners.

I think they failed in not knowing that the line of scrimmage extends through the out of bounds on those types of plays. They probably saw the ball went OOB prior to the line of scrimmage and therefore assumed it didn't make it.

[bigcheeze]

I definitely put all of that on Roman.

Personally, I don't blame Ginn for not falling on the ball. It seemed like it took a bad bounce towards the sideline once Ginn got close. Like it was heading towards the endzone, then at the last second, right turn Clyde and went towards the sideline. If anything, it seemed like it would have been easier to just kick it out of the back of the endzone or the sideline.

I'm not overly blaming Ginn, I think he had the smallest part in it - but it did appear to me that right before Jenkins () got the ball Ginn could have just fell on it and given himself a better chance to keep the ball.

Again, to me biggest fail was on Roman/Harbs for letting that stupid play be called into Kaep.

[rapjuicer06]

I'm not overly blaming Ginn, I think he had the smallest part in it - but it did appear to me that right before Jenkins () got the ball Ginn could have just fell on it and given himself a better chance to keep the ball.

Again, to me biggest fail was on Roman/Harbs for letting that stupid play be called into Kaep.

I completely agree...but someone coming from an Option college...you'd think he'd be able to make that 2 yard pitch

[nutty]

I completely agree..

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[lolPhillies]

I think they failed in not knowing that the line of scrimmage extends through the out of bounds on those types of plays. They probably saw the ball went OOB prior to the line of scrimmage and therefore assumed it didn't make it.

I'm not overly blaming Ginn, I think he had the smallest part in it - but it did appear to me that right before Jenkins () got the ball Ginn could have just fell on it and given himself a better chance to keep the ball.

Again, to me biggest fail was on Roman/Harbs for letting that stupid play be called into Kaep.

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[NinerHomer49]

I think they failed in not knowing that the line of scrimmage extends through the out of bounds on those types of plays. They probably saw the ball went OOB prior to the line of scrimmage and therefore assumed it didn't make it.

They made quite a few "mistakes" that are pretty shady actually. I don't think the game was rigged...but I do think the officials need to be held accountable for quite obviously altering the outcome of a game due to repeated mistakes.