NYK -vs- Poor Sportscasting

[Knick4Knack]

I wasn't going to write this thread, but, oh well...

Mods, I would argue that this is Knicks related.

I have been a lifelong Knicks fan. No choice, inherited it from my pop.

In all my years, I have never seen such a poor compilation of studio analysts as I have seen on Inside the NBA, and the NBA on TNT. It's not even about having fair and balanced prognostication, stemming from objectivity. There are those that do merit praise for good analysis, such as Steve Smith, who clearly does his homework and knows something about the teams he analyzes. The majority of the others, however, just don't give a damn.

Take Charles Barkley, for example. He rarely does any homework. 3 weeks ago, he argued that the Knicks were wrong in letting Lin go because they could have amnestied him as a back-up plan.

Last night, he stated that the Nets bench is better than the Knicks. When challenged, he noted that the Knicks bench is weakened due to J.R. Smith being used as a starter, and will remain in such a state until either Stat or Shumpert returns.

Are you kidding me?

That fact that Ernie Johnson was the only person knowledgeable enough to (attempt to) correct him is even more depressing.

Most FANS know that (1). NY already used its amnesty on Billups, and (2). J.R. has not started for the Knicks this year. How can you provide NBA analysis if you don't even know basic information about that team. Why is it acceptable to continually gaff on, or more horrifically -make up- basic info and those errors be dismissed? Years ago, this guy would have been laughed off the stage. Today, he is their number one rated analyst.

It appears to me that the NBA has, thus, determined to make its living on one main sportscaster who serves as the center of attention and the nexus of poor commentary, void of substantive analysis, and the brunt of frat-boy jokes. Eating cake on stage and threatening "butt whuppins" is the norm. This would not irk me so much if that commentator had not established himself as a biased Knick hater. But no, the NBA sees this as a ratings grab.

A brief look at some other analysts.

Chris Webber - Why does he always look like he is smiling or about to bust out in laughter? In his early years, he agreed with Charles on everything. He's his own man now, but he never looks serious - more like Huey Freeman.

Shaq - Perhaps the worst analyst in the history of sports - ever. Not only is he biased, carrying his Dwight Howard grudge into his post career gig, but his demeanor is about as interesting as watching paint dry. Always seems awkward and off balance.

Kenny "the Jet" Smith - An interesting analyst in that he is quite knowledgeable and skilled, but prefers to slum it with Charles 24-7. His analysis plays off of Barkley's so much that he no longer appears to be an individual.

Just ranting and hollerin' and raving, guys. Needed to get this off my chest, especially after a Knicks loss. However, I truly feel that the art of B-Ball prognostication has hit the toilet bowl.

Chime in - ...

Mod's, understand if you must move/merge.

[D-Leethal]

Nothing pisses me off more than guys just letting Chuck spew nonsense and not calling him out. Ernie and Kenny are so soft, they basically mentioned Chuck was wrong, let Chuck overpower them and continue to spew nonsense like he was right, and Ernie and Kenny just gave up.

[Patrick Ewing33]

Chuck nothing short but an idoit.. here are a few things he said yesterday (correct me if im wrong)

1. The Knicks have no defense. (the Knicks game up 100+ points 3 games in a row, but what about the other 10..?)
2. He states the Nets have a better bench and when he explains why all's he says is Reggie Evans is a great rebounder..
3. JR Smith is a starter... Seriously.. like c'omon!

One thing I noticed is he LOOKS for things to talk bad about the Knicks, notice how at halftime his eyes are glued all over his computer or what ever it was just to say about the offensive rebounds.

It's getting old now, I can't stand him because once he talks about the Knicks you know what he's going to say.

If the Knicks happen to win a championship he would still try and down grade the Knicks. I just wish I could see him one day and I swear I would go nuts.

The dude just simply hates the Knicks.

Let me do a fair comparism against the Knicks vs the Nets bench..

Jr Smith >> Marshon Brooks (Futurewise Brooks is going to be very good...)
Steve Novak >> Jerry Stackhouse
Rasheed Wallace >> Andray Blatche
Marcus Camby < Reggie Evans (Slight edge to Reggie Evans but Hardson doesnt give the man minutes...)
Pablo Prigioni = CJ Watson

It just baffels me that he swears up and down that the Nets have a better bench.

I'm not sure who is worse.. DMF or Chuck.

[Knick4Knack]

And that is basically my point. Why is it o.k. for an analyst to revel in his own bias? It has become a sideshow.

[Mbellz3o8]

Nothing pisses me off more than guys just letting Chuck spew nonsense and not calling him out. Ernie and Kenny are so soft, they basically mentioned Chuck was wrong, let Chuck overpower them and continue to spew nonsense like he was right, and Ernie and Kenny just gave up.

Because people tune into to hear what he has to say. I really believe chuck gets paid to get people worked up over what he says. If you take Chuck away from TNT then it would be a boring pre/post game to me.

[IDunknown]

I wasn't going to write this thread, but, oh well...

Mods, I would argue that this is Knicks related.

I have been a lifelong Knicks fan. No choice, inherited it from my pop.

In all my years, I have never seen such a poor compilation of studio analysts as I have seen on Inside the NBA, and the NBA on TNT. It's not even about having fair and balanced prognostication, stemming from objectivity. There are those that do merit praise for good analysis, such as Steve Smith, who clearly does his homework and knows something about the teams he analyzes. The majority of the others, however, just don't give a damn.

Take Charles Barkley, for example. He rarely does any homework. 3 weeks ago, he argued that the Knicks were wrong in letting Lin go because they could have amnestied him as a back-up plan.

Last night, he stated that the Nets bench is better than the Knicks. When challenged, he noted that the Knicks bench is weakened due to J.R. Smith being used as a starter, and will remain in such a state until either Stat or Shumpert returns.

Are you kidding me?

That fact that Ernie Johnson was the only person knowledgeable enough to (attempt to) correct him is even more depressing.

Most FANS know that (1). NY already used its amnesty on Billups, and (2). J.R. has not started for the Knicks this year. How can you provide NBA analysis if you don't even know basic information about that team. Why is it acceptable to continually gaff on, or more horrifically -make up- basic info and those errors be dismissed? Years ago, this guy would have been laughed off the stage. Today, he is their number one rated analyst.

It appears to me that the NBA has, thus, determined to make its living on one main sportscaster who serves as the center of attention and the nexus of poor commentary, void of substantive analysis, and the brunt of frat-boy jokes. Eating cake on stage and threatening "butt whuppins" is the norm. This would not irk me so much if that commentator had not established himself as a biased Knick hater. But no, the NBA sees this as a ratings grab.

A brief look at some other analysts.

Chris Webber - Why does he always look like he is smiling or about to bust out in laughter? In his early years, he agreed with Charles on everything. He's his own man now, but he never looks serious - more like Huey Freeman.

Shaq - Perhaps the worst analyst in the history of sports - ever. Not only is he biased, carrying his Dwight Howard grudge into his post career gig, but his demeanor is about as interesting as watching paint dry. Always seems awkward and off balance.

Kenny "the Jet" Smith - An interesting analyst in that he is quite knowledgeable and skilled, but prefers to slum it with Charles 24-7. His analysis plays off of Barkley's so much that he no longer appears to be an individual.

Just ranting and hollerin' and raving, guys. Needed to get this off my chest, especially after a Knicks loss. However, I truly feel that the art of B-Ball prognostication has hit the toilet bowl.

Chime in - ...

Mod's, understand if you must move/merge.

Huey Freeman always looks serious.

[Jesse2272]

I wasn't going to write this thread, but, oh well...

Mods, I would argue that this is Knicks related.

I have been a lifelong Knicks fan. No choice, inherited it from my pop.

In all my years, I have never seen such a poor compilation of studio analysts as I have seen on Inside the NBA, and the NBA on TNT. It's not even about having fair and balanced prognostication, stemming from objectivity. There are those that do merit praise for good analysis, such as Steve Smith, who clearly does his homework and knows something about the teams he analyzes. The majority of the others, however, just don't give a damn.

Take Charles Barkley, for example. He rarely does any homework. 3 weeks ago, he argued that the Knicks were wrong in letting Lin go because they could have amnestied him as a back-up plan.

Last night, he stated that the Nets bench is better than the Knicks. When challenged, he noted that the Knicks bench is weakened due to J.R. Smith being used as a starter, and will remain in such a state until either Stat or Shumpert returns.

Are you kidding me?

That fact that Ernie Johnson was the only person knowledgeable enough to (attempt to) correct him is even more depressing.

Most FANS know that (1). NY already used its amnesty on Billups, and (2). J.R. has not started for the Knicks this year. How can you provide NBA analysis if you don't even know basic information about that team. Why is it acceptable to continually gaff on, or more horrifically -make up- basic info and those errors be dismissed? Years ago, this guy would have been laughed off the stage. Today, he is their number one rated analyst.

It appears to me that the NBA has, thus, determined to make its living on one main sportscaster who serves as the center of attention and the nexus of poor commentary, void of substantive analysis, and the brunt of frat-boy jokes. Eating cake on stage and threatening "butt whuppins" is the norm. This would not irk me so much if that commentator had not established himself as a biased Knick hater. But no, the NBA sees this as a ratings grab.

A brief look at some other analysts.

Chris Webber - Why does he always look like he is smiling or about to bust out in laughter? In his early years, he agreed with Charles on everything. He's his own man now, but he never looks serious - more like Huey Freeman.

Shaq - Perhaps the worst analyst in the history of sports - ever. Not only is he biased, carrying his Dwight Howard grudge into his post career gig, but his demeanor is about as interesting as watching paint dry. Always seems awkward and off balance.

Kenny "the Jet" Smith - An interesting analyst in that he is quite knowledgeable and skilled, but prefers to slum it with Charles 24-7. His analysis plays off of Barkley's so much that he no longer appears to be an individual.

Just ranting and hollerin' and raving, guys. Needed to get this off my chest, especially after a Knicks loss. However, I truly feel that the art of B-Ball prognostication has hit the toilet bowl.

Chime in - ...

Mod's, understand if you must move/merge.

Couldnt agree more-great rant

[micks4real]

Knicks - Nets on TNT was not called fairly.. Dudes really hate on the Knicks, its so obvious

[KnickerBockerAL]

I like this thread. Charles sounded like such a Knick hater on Monday. He didnt even have facts to back up what he was saying. He was just saying stupid things just to say them.

But the person that really drive me crazy , and I have said this before in this forum but i dont think many people agreed with me, is Walt Clyde Frazier. For one, i hate all his stupid sayings. He is so corny and stuck in the 70's. I'm trying to watch basketball not prepare for the SAT. STFU CLyde!

Two, Clyde ALWAYS sounds like he is cheering for the other team and often show replays of the other teams successful plays. I mean WTF? am i watching the Knicks channel or the other teams channel? I mean he gets so excited when the OTHER team makes a good play or when we make a bad play. Its like if he doesnt want us to win so he stillholds the throne as the Knicks ultimate champion. If you don't agree with what I'm saying, please keep this in the back of your mind as you watch the game tonight. Listen to all the negative energy that comes from Clyde.

Lastly, Listen to the boston play by play guy (i think its Tommy something). That dude straight up cheers for the celtics on TV. He screams about how the refs make bad calls (in his eyes all calls against the celtics are wrong) he is just so biased towards the celtics is really freaking annoying to listen to. He is exactly the complete opposite of what Clyde does and actually most sportscasters sound biased towards their team. I have league pass and can tell who's channel is who's. I was listening to the Rockets announcer the other day and you could tell he was cheering for Houston. Same thing with LA. But you couldn't tell that with the Knicks. Its just very frustrating. I wish Clyde would get Fired already. Let Alan Hahn and Wally call the games.

I dont like Mike Breen either.

[yankstheknicks]

i honestly love this thread...when the knicks loose i usually stay away from everything sports until they win but..... i liked reading this... it took me outa my slump..

[flimflamman]

Clyde needs queer eye

[KnickerBockerAL]

You guys hear Clyde after JR's Buzzer beater? All he could talk about was how the bobcats should used their foul to give.

Thats like, bottom of the 9th, Cano hits a walk off homerun and instead of Michael Kay saying "See ya!!!", all he can talk about is how the opposing pitcher should have thrown a cruve ball instead of a fastball.....think about that.

Do you think the celtics sportscaster Tommy Heinsohn would have been saying that or do you think he would have been screaming "what a shot by JR smith"???

come on Clyde are you kidding me? we hit a buzzer beater and instead of a great sound bite, we get Clyde talking about what the Bobcats should have done to beat us? gimme a freaking break man. thats complete BS. He needs to get fired. He is the worst.

[Knick4Knack]

You guys hear Clyde after JR's Buzzer beater? All he could talk about was how the bobcats should used their foul to give.

Thats like, bottom of the 9th, Cano hits a walk off homerun and instead of Michael Kay saying "See ya!!!", all he can talk about is how the opposing pitcher should have thrown a cruve ball instead of a fastball.....think about that.

Do you think the celtics sportscaster Tommy Heinsohn would have been saying that or do you think he would have been screaming "what a shot by JR smith"???

come on Clyde are you kidding me? we hit a buzzer beater and instead of a great sound bite, we get Clyde talking about what the Bobcats should have done to beat us? gimme a freaking break man. thats complete BS. He needs to get fired. He is the worst.

He sounded excited that they won afterward.

I think that Clyde is knowledgeable, and that he wants the Knicks to do well. Deep down he bleeds blue and orange. He is just that critical older brother, applying his critique of the Knicks to basketball in general. Plus, he may not know how to comment on our success because we have been bad for so long.

There are enough "company men" at MSG. Clyde is certainly not one of them. He's his own guy, and I like that...

...That and those super bass loud suits. Whew!!!!

[D-Leethal]

Clyde tells it like he sees it. Hes not an outrageous homer and I like that. I get sick to my stomach watching other announcers on league pass. I think we have the only impartial announcers in the business.

Anyone know who calls Grizzlies games? I like their color guy, very insightful and fair.

[Knick4Knack]

Clyde tells it like he sees it. Hes not an outrageous homer and I like that. I get sick to my stomach watching other announcers on league pass. I think we have the only impartial announcers in the business.

Anyone know who calls Grizzlies games? I like their color guy, very insightful and fair.

Pete Pranica and Brevin Knight, I thinks....