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    player a) vs player b) who would you keep ?

    jonas or bargs
    davis or amir
    ross or fields

    Imo we have too many players that are near and around the same skill level..

    we need to package some of our players for an upgrade at the 3.


    - i can def live with out fields knowing ross could take his mins. ross is cheaper and could have more potential.

    - davis and amir. both players are very similar. trade one and keep the other! we need more playing time for either one of these guys. either one can go so long as we keep one of them. oooor keep them both and move bargs.

    - jonas has shown already that he will be a big part of this team, lets move bargs along with one of the other names mentioned above for some talent at the 3.

    * i was gonna add lowry and calderon. but im hopeing we can retain calderon for the midlevel or less next season.


    who would you prefer to keep, and who are you willing to part with ??

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    IMO the answers to those are extremely easy

    Jonas, Ed, Ross

    but hey, knowing this board there will be some dissent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dol-Fan View Post
    IMO the answers to those are extremely easy

    Jonas, Ed, Ross

    but hey, knowing this board there will be some dissent
    trying to point out that we have some log jams and interchangable pieces we could give up in order to improve in areas of need.

    for example. we have a log jam at the 4 and are thin at the 3.. if we part with bargs we could keep ed and amir and target a sf. or keep bargs and package two young guys like ed and ross who are on rookie contracts for and upgrade at the 3.

    ross and fields. which ever leaves will create mins for the other. so i dont see it as a big loss if one of them were pacakged.

    amir and ed. again if one leaves it will open up playing time for the other

    bargs and jonas. we dont really need to move either.. but jonas being a more traditional big suites our team better and bargs has some value where he could net something worth while in return and there are other bigs on this team who can fill the gap at the 4.
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    Jonas, Ed & Ross obviously.


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    Trade bargs, ed davis, calderon, Terrence ross for JSmith and devin harris, john jenkins

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylanreidchiu View Post
    Trade bargs, ed davis, calderon, Terrence ross for JSmith and devin harris, john jenkins
    Giving up way too much


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmath View Post
    Giving up way too much
    Lmao in no way at all is that giving up too much, I never understand half of you guys on here just expect to trade away bums and get ok to great players.
    ]I may be acting like a Kidd, switch from team to team, now I'm getting Bucks and all I see is green. Call me what you want, image don't mean a thing to me, sign me for 5 or 6 mill and worry about my legacy. - Me

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    Jonas & Ross for sure.

    It would be a toss up between Amir and Davis. If Davis can improve his shot, and bulk up, I'd take Ed Davis > Amir.

    And by the way, those pants, they belong to my dad.And they're not really pants,
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    Davis, Ross and Jonas easily for me.

    Let's make it interesting for discussion.

    Lowry or Valanciunas
    DeRozan or Ross
    Davis or Bargnani

    GO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pebloemer View Post
    Davis, Ross and Jonas easily for me.

    Let's make it interesting for discussion.

    Lowry or Valanciunas
    DeRozan or Ross
    Davis or Bargnani

    GO!
    Valanciunas
    Ross
    Davis

    Valanciunas because I'd rather have a premier C than PG. Love Lowry to death but I gotta go with the big man here.

    Ross because he's an unknown. I already know that I'm not confident in DD. Ross could end up being worse, no doubt, but it's not like DD is anything special.

    I just dislike Bargnani. Would take Ed's limited offense and millionx better D any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dol-Fan View Post
    Valanciunas
    Ross
    Davis

    Valanciunas because I'd rather have a premier C than PG. Love Lowry to death but I gotta go with the big man here.

    Ross because he's an unknown. I already know that I'm not confident in DD. Ross could end up being worse, no doubt, but it's not like DD is anything special.

    I just dislike Bargnani. Would take Ed's limited offense and millionx better D any day.
    I might choose DD over Ross, but I agree on the other two. I thought it might be tougher choices at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dol-Fan View Post
    Valanciunas
    Ross
    Davis

    Valanciunas because I'd rather have a premier C than PG. Love Lowry to death but I gotta go with the big man here.

    Ross because he's an unknown. I already know that I'm not confident in DD. Ross could end up being worse, no doubt, but it's not like DD is anything special.

    I just dislike Bargnani. Would take Ed's limited offense and millionx better D any day.
    I am with you 100% but the DD hopefuls will cut you to pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps Insider 12 View Post
    I am with you 100% but the DD hopefuls will cut you to pieces.
    Ross has two things that I like in a starting SG: defense and shooting.

    I know what I see with DeRozan, I've seen it for years, and it hasn't changed a whole lot. I don't think DeRozan stinks, I just don't look at him as a championship calibre wing player. Can't play D and can't stretch the D. You can't even look at him as an Andre Iguodala type, and it's debatable if AI2 is the type of SG/SF you want helping you win a championship.

    I've argued it for a long time and done a lot of work to back up my views, so I don't care to do it all again. Let them cut me to pieces, and I'll let them be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dol-Fan View Post
    Valanciunas
    Ross
    Davis

    Valanciunas because I'd rather have a premier C than PG. Love Lowry to death but I gotta go with the big man here.

    Ross because he's an unknown. I already know that I'm not confident in DD. Ross could end up being worse, no doubt, but it's not like DD is anything special.

    I just dislike Bargnani. Would take Ed's limited offense and millionx better D any day.
    Derozan has been the only bright spot for the raptors all season(which isn't that much) but still like he was the 9th pick wth do you want him to do?
    ]I may be acting like a Kidd, switch from team to team, now I'm getting Bucks and all I see is green. Call me what you want, image don't mean a thing to me, sign me for 5 or 6 mill and worry about my legacy. - Me

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Rock Shaqs View Post
    Derozan has been the only bright spot for the raptors all season(which isn't that much) but still like he was the 9th pick wth do you want him to do?
    Read my post above. I think my criticisms are fair. I like DeRozan but don't think he's got the skill set to be a starting wing on a championship team. Great 6th man though with his ability to drive/get to the FT line and knock down the mid-range.

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