Continue the discussion here.
Continue the discussion here.
I'd like to make sure this thread knows that Swisher stinks.
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Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamppost: for support, not illumination.
Swisher has also been injury-free and is one of just seven players to play at least 145 games in each of the last seven years, and he is one of just seven players to hit at least 20 homers in each of the last eight seasons.
He clearly stinks. You're right.
Oh, and post-season you meant? Well, the Yanks would have been watching the Orioles and the Rays or Angels play in the playoffs from their homes if it wasn't for Swisher's numbers in 2012. ...and as if Cano, ARod, Granderson, Tex and the rest of the team really had great post-seasons. If the Yankees were smart, I think they'll re-approach Swisher with a three year deal now that Boston took Gomes and is close to getting Ross resigned. Who else are we going to put out there, Chris Dickerson? I like him, just not sure if he's ready for 140+ games at MLB.
Last edited by UESYanksFan; 12-02-2012 at 08:41 PM.
Saw this gem in the last thread.
Which led to someone saying the Marlins would laugh hysterically at that offer. The poster then replied:Yanks get: Stanton and some AAA pitcher
Marlins get: Nova, Banuelos, Romine, Austin, and low-A player to be announced.
Go Cashman go...
The owner is not an idiot. A crook, yes, but not an idiot. He shed a TON of payroll and now has quite possibly the best farm system in baseball. In a few years, that team will be exciting. Three or four years from now, we could see an NL East championship from that team. Keep in mind that Josh Johnson has major injury problems, Buerhle hasn't been effective for a few years, and Reyes's contract is gigantic, and he has some big injury problems as well.No they won't. The owner is an idiot in case you have not noticed. They get a nice haul.
So, in exchange for one year of an injury-prone Johnson, an albatross contract in Buerhle, an average starting catcher, and Reyes, who has some huge question marks of his own, and a good utility guy, here's what they got:
1) Jake Marsinek, who could end up being what the Reds wanted Stubbs to be. Great defense, good bat, great speed. He's like their Mason Williams, but without quite as high of a ceiling, and a lot closer to the big leagues
2) Justin Nicolino, one of the best lefty starter prospects in baseball, who could end up as a #2 starter.
3) Henderson Alvarez, who could be a mid-rotation starter or a very good reliever. All depends on if he can develop a third pitch.
4) Adeiny Hechavarria, who is a great defensive shortstop, young, and could develop a bat as he ages. Should end up being a starter.
5) Yunel Escobar. Head case, but talented. Can play second, third, or short, and has the bat and defense to stick at any of those spots. Potentially above average, but with a very high floor as well. Also makes a good trade chip for a contender.
6) Jeff Mathis, who admittedly is terrible, but is a good placeholder and is cheap as a catcher.
7) Anthony DeSclafani, who is a hard-throwing reliever.
And the biggest part: With the exception of Escobar and maybe Mathis, all of those guys are pre-arb, and will make league minimum for years. They got a ton of talent in that deal, and in the deals involving Hanley/Anibal/Infante/etc... Jacob Turner, anyone? Kid is going to be a stud.
Of course, the tradeoff here is that the Miami fanbase possibly won't ever forgive him or embrace the team, and that they won't be competitive for a few years. But Loria is by no means an idiot.
So can we stop with the terrible Marlins-related trade proposals? Please?
Being realistic, it'll probably take a few good prospects to get LoMo. Not anyone like Heathcott/Williams/Sanchez/Austin, but still a decent haul. He's still pre-arb. They're in no hurry to get rid of LoMo. Nolasco is a good option who WOULD come cheap, but will only be pursued if Pettitte decides not to come back.
As for Stanton, well, unless Cashman can get VERY creative in a three-way trade, we'll definitely say goodbye to AT LEAST three of Williams/Heathcott/Sanchez/Austin, in addition to someone like Nunez, and Nova, and then even more. If it happens, great, but I won't hold my breath. Stanton hasn't even hit arbitration yet, and he's one of the best players in the game. Among position players, the only two who probably have higher trade value are Trout and Harper.
But yeah, again, let's not make stupid trade proposals here.
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As for Stanton, I did not realize he still had all those arb years. If that's the case, he would definitely require to trade the prospects you had mentioned, plus more. But if Cashman can work a deal to get them to say yes, I'll be all over it.
Williams, Heathcott, Sanchez, Nova, Warren
Stanton, Nolasco ($11.5m)
Let Martin get his 4 year $40m deal elseware - sign Pierzynski
Sign Scott Hairiston
boo.. I suck.
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