Should the Royals trade Wil Myers?

[rkelly7]

Still haven't answered the question.

Myers could prove to be nothing. Niese at the very least is a number 3 starter and thats if he doesn't get any better. a 25 year old lefty with a 3.40 ERA on an awful defensive team is a pretty damn good pitcher.

All I am saying is that Nieses best years will come when Hosmer and Moustakas reach their full potential.

Two years of Shields when K.C. isn't ready to win does not make sense.

I don't need to answer your question. That is not what I am arguing. I am simply debating the value of Myers, Niese and Shields.

But just for giggles, no I do not see them making the world series in the next two years. But if they had Shields, they would certainly have a better chance in the next two years than with Niese.

Yes, Myers could end up flopping, but even taking that into consideration, he is worth more than Niese.

But again, I'm not arguing what is best and what makes sense for the Royals. I don't know what they should do. You don't either. Hell, Dayton Moore is probably twiddling his thumbs. I don;t know how they will become World series con tenders. They do however, need real difference makers, not complenmentary peices like Niese.

If your sop hiogh on Niese, maybe you should just advocate against keeping him if you honestly think he will develop into a #2 starter, because you may be in your own boat on that one. Maybe I undervalue Ni9ese, but you cewrtainly overvalue him, so perhaps we should meet in the middle.

Niese and prospect for Hosmer? Thne you can trade Ike Davis like the Mets say they were open to.

[Rio40]

I just think that Niese would be a perfect fit for them and be their best pitcher by far.

Shields makes no sense for the Royals. Hellickson on the other hand would be ideal. If I am the Royals I would trade Myers for Hellickson straight up or to the Mets for a package around Niese and Flores.

[Nomar]

I just think that Niese would be a perfect fit for them and be their best pitcher by far.

Shields makes no sense for the Royals. Hellickson on the other hand would be ideal. If I am the Royals I would trade Myers for Hellickson straight up or to the Mets for a package around Niese and Flores.

Their core hitters (Gordon, Moose, Butler, Hosmer) probably will have their best season as a group in 2014 or 15. Getting Shields still gives them a staple at the top of their rotation. Hellickson isnt a leader like Shields or as much of a big game guy.

[Jeffy25]

I disagree, in 2011 and 2010 he fatigued at the end of the season.

His peripherals suggest a bit of a regression in 2013. But with his age, there is the potential he will improve upon his peripherals.

[Jeffy25]

Niese and Flores for Myers seems fair. Niese will most likely continue to improve and Flores is our best hitting prospect but he a strictly a corner infielder or DH. He is Blocked with Ike and Wright.

Gives KC a chip to trade or even trade Butler for another pitcher when Flores is ready next season.

And he would be blocked by Hosmer and Moose in KC

They want a front line starter. That isn't Niese, throwing in Flores doesn't make the trade really any better for KC.

If Flores was MLB ready and could play second base, then it could make sense (which is, I guess possible).

[Jeffy25]

Until Wil Myers faces a MLB pitcher in a MLB game, he's just potential; and that's all he is. The history books of baseball are filled with pages of players with all the talent in the world but have not produced at the MLB level.

And every professional baseball player that is a star today, was a prospect at one point.

And most stars that fade away, didn't hit 37 home runs in AA and AAA at 21 years old in a fairly competitive league.

At the very worst, Myers will be a big league regular (barring injuries of course).

[Jeffy25]

Your statement is kinda stupid. Trading for Shields gives the Royals a 2 year window. Can you see the Royals getting to the WS in the next 2 years?

In two years Niese will be in his prime. Moustakas and Hosmer Will also be entering their primes.

Flores is no slouch either. He's going to be a very good hitter but he's blocked at third and first and doesn't have the foot speed to play the OF.

The Mets could also include Valdespin (very talented second basemen but attitude is lacking) and Duda who took as step back last year but has the potential to be a good power hitter.

A lot of you are undervaluing a talented 26 year old lefty with 6 years of control.

Of course it doesn't make sense to trade for James Shields with Wil Myers, we are talking about the rumors to this point. The Royals are not going to win the World Series in the next two years (or are highly, highly unlikely to do so). Shields isn't going to make them win it all. Myers is a core player with 6 years of control.

We are talking about what DM (possibly the worst GM in baseball) might actually do. Of course Niese would likely be a better fit because of the core of talent coming along. But he wants a front line starter, and Shields is probably the most available.

Also, 6 years of control for a 26 year old lefty? Then Jaime Garcia is available for Wil Myers too. And he is better than Niese.

Most teams have a good young lefty like this in their rotation. And they shouldn't be able to net the best prospect in baseball for that player.

DM wants a front line starter, Shields fits that criteria. Niese, does not.

[statquo]

Of course it doesn't make sense to trade for James Shields with Wil Myers, we are talking about the rumors to this point. The Royals are not going to win the World Series in the next two years (or are highly, highly unlikely to do so). Shields isn't going to make them win it all. Myers is a core player with 6 years of control.

We are talking about what DM (possibly the worst GM in baseball) might actually do. Of course Niese would likely be a better fit because of the core of talent coming along. But he wants a front line starter, and Shields is probably the most available.

Also, 6 years of control for a 26 year old lefty? Then Jaime Garcia is available for Wil Myers too. And he is better than Niese.

Most teams have a good young lefty like this in their rotation. And they shouldn't be able to net the best prospect in baseball for that player.

DM wants a front line starter, Shields fits that criteria. Niese, does not.

guess the rumours are real now. we'll have to see what else the rays scooped up here.

[SFrush90]

Going to close this since Myers was traded.