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Thread: 2013 Cap Issues

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    I dont mean to sound negative but honestly I see a lot of money on that list, and not a lot of talent are production at all - blows my mind. We really need to start player cuts if deemed not worth trying to trade. There are some players I would love to see in the silver n black who are free agents.

    Mendenhall , Jennings, Mike Wallace, Bowe, Welker, Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Levitre, Brandon Albert, Cliff Avril, Henry Melton, Idonije, Urlacher, Mauluga, Tracy Porter, Rodgers - Cromartie, Jairus Bryd, Delmas, among others would make me happy to see on our squad. Not saying we will land any of these guys just cant believe how many good players are on the market come the offseason

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiderposting View Post
    those aren' there total cap hits
    Right those are the base salaries as it says, I didnt get into all the incentives (except further down the page in reply to another poster, on a few guys only). The bottom line we are going to be around 4-6m over cap as I see it, It also depends on how much we are giving to our rookies.

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    I agree with most, I don't see a lot of these guys on the roster next year. I don't see Seymour on the team next year and if McFadden misses one more game after this Sunday I think we really need to unload this guy. Unless he restructures his deal, we are paying full time money for a part time RB. We are getting the suckers end of this deal. I am also for trading our early 1st round for a later 1st round and maybe pick up a second or another third.

    But we still have cap issues. Going to take some time to get it under control.

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    My faith in RM will stem on how he deals with this problem. Kelly, Seymour, DHB, DMC, and McClain are not contributing. Cut or trade all of them period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderwood View Post
    DHB, Seymour, Kelly and McClain are all off that list come next year.. I don't know how much will be dead money but that's aprox 25mm right there
    I agree but I think DHB will restructure... The other three I think are gone.
    Last edited by olddude; 11-24-2012 at 04:18 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiiStyle View Post
    So I was doing a little research on our financial forecast for this coming draft and free agency period, since I think that this will be an exciting time. Here is our current roster of base salaries going into next year.

    1.Aaron Curry : Not sure if he will carry a cap hit
    2.Carson Palmer $13,000,000
    3.Heyward-Bey $7,721,000
    4.Richard Seymour $7,500,000
    5.Tommy Kelly $6,500,000
    6.Tyvon Branch $6,000,000
    7.Darren Mcfadden $5,856,250
    8.Mike Brisiel $4,350,000
    9.Rolando McClain $4,005,000
    10.Michael Huff $4,000,000
    11.Janikowski $3,800,000
    12.Marcel Reece $ 1,423,000
    13.Condo $1,200,000
    14.Tollefson $900,000
    15.Wisniewski $750,946
    16.Francies $630,000
    17.Houston $630,000
    18.Kennan Clayton $575,000
    19.Jered Veldheer $575,000
    20.Travis Goethel $575,000
    21.Willie Smith $555,000
    22.Denarius Moore $555,000
    23.Taiwan Jones $555,000
    24.Richard Gordon $555,000
    25.Terrelle Pryor $555,000
    26.Vic So'oto $555,000
    27.David Ausberry $555,000
    28.Miles Burris $480,000
    29.Juron Criner $480,000
    30.Jack Crawford $480,000
    31.Christo Bilukidi $480,000
    32.Tony Bergstrom $480,000
    33.Rod Streater $480,000
    34.Lucas Nix $480,000
    35.Futures Player $480,000
    36.Futures Player $480,000
    37.Futures Player $480,000
    38.Futures Player $480,000
    39.Futures Player $480,000
    40.Futures Player $480,000
    41.Futures Player $480,000
    42.Futures Player $480,000
    43.Futures Player $480,000
    44.Futures Player $480,000
    45.Futures Player $480,000
    46.Futures Player $480,000
    47.Futures Player $480,000
    48.Futures Player $480,000
    49.Futures Player $480,000
    50.Futures Player $480,000
    51.Futures Player $480,000
    I doubt most of these guys are back

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    Here is a little something I came across,

    Oakland Raiders ($28,114,475-Dead Money; $124,105,427-Adjusted Cap)

    Reggie McKenzie, who was hired as general manager in January, inherited a mess because of the previous regime’s penchant for signing bad player-friendly contracts. The Raiders began the offseason with $145 million committed towards this season’s cap, which is $120.6 million, when they only had approximately $3 million of cap room to carryover from the 2011 season. In order to reduce their cap obligations by approximately $22 million to comply with cap rules, McKenzie restructured (Carson Palmer, Richard Seymour, etc.) and terminated contracts.

    Addressing the three-year, $31.5 million contract (with $20 million in guarantees) Stanford Routt received in 2011 before the lockout, which made him the NFL’s third highest paid cornerback (by average yearly salary), was at the top of McKenzie’s list. Oakland compounded their problem after the lockout by restructuring Routt’s contract to create cap room in which two voidable years were added at $11.5 million each to help with the proration. With Routt’s 2012 base salary becoming fully guaranteed on February 10th, McKenzie released him despite his contract containing a $5 million fully guaranteed fifth day of the league year 2012 roster bonus without an offset.

    Most NFL contract guarantees contain language which allows a club to reduce the amount they owe a released player by the amount of his new deal with another club (an “offset”). Since Routt’s contract doesn’t have this language, he has been getting paid this year from both the Raiders and the Chiefs. Routt counts $10,785,334 in dead money on Oakland’s cap. Without the restructuring, his dead money would only be $3,333,334. Routt made $15 million for the one season he played under this deal.

    Kamerion Wimbley is the other major dead money charge for the Raiders at $9.9 million. McKenzie attempted to renegotiate the five-year, $48.5 million contract Wimbley received last year, but didn’t have much leverage because $6.5 million of his 2012 base salary was fully guaranteed without an offset at signing. He released Wimbley on March 16th, a day before the remaining $4.5 million of his $11 million 2012 base salary, his $11 million 2013 base salary and $2 million of his 2014 base salary became fully guaranteed. Kevin Boss and John Henderson, who were also released, are receiving $2 million and $1.5 million payments, respectively, from the Raiders this year because of salary guarantees without offsets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiiStyle View Post
    I dont mean to sound negative but honestly I see a lot of money on that list, and not a lot of talent are production at all - blows my mind. We really need to start player cuts if deemed not worth trying to trade. There are some players I would love to see in the silver n black who are free agents.

    Mendenhall , Jennings, Mike Wallace, Bowe, Welker, Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Levitre, Brandon Albert, Cliff Avril, Henry Melton, Idonije, Urlacher, Mauluga, Tracy Porter, Rodgers - Cromartie, Jairus Bryd, Delmas, among others would make me happy to see on our squad. Not saying we will land any of these guys just cant believe how many good players are on the market come the offseason
    Those two are my favorites for the Raiders to sign. Mendenhall is an interesting guy who will hit the market. I think the Raiders would rather draft a young bruiser but who knows...they may have a couple spots to fill at runningback with how that position has shaped up this season.

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    Rodgers - Cromartie and Tracy porter are the only two id grab from this list

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    You still need a great coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiiStyle View Post
    So I was doing a little research on our financial forecast for this coming draft and free agency period, since I think that this will be an exciting time. Here is our current roster of base salaries going into next year.

    1.Aaron Curry : Not sure if he will carry a cap hit
    2.Carson Palmer $13,000,000
    3.Heyward-Bey $7,721,000
    4.Richard Seymour $7,500,000
    5.Tommy Kelly $6,500,000
    6.Tyvon Branch $6,000,000
    7.Darren Mcfadden $5,856,250
    8.Mike Brisiel $4,350,000
    9.Rolando McClain $4,005,000
    so I guess it looks like right around $4mil/season is the line of mediocrity for our team
    RAIDERS. ARE. BACK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mberr View Post
    so I guess it looks like right around $4mil/season is the line of mediocrity for our team
    You know... I'm just not ready to give up on McClain and Branch yet.

    I know it's illogical - and I realize how useless that makes my opinion - but I still think Branch and McClain can play a positive role for this team in the future.

    A switch to a 3-4 defense would make Houston and McClain immediately more viable to succeed in the Raider defense.

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    It's time for players to start earning their paychecks rather than have someone just hand out money and think they will play hard. I could care less about names on a team... i just want to see a competitive team.

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    ^ i agree with that.... I for one would like to see every single player on our roster traded for draft picks , we might as well just do things like an expansion team because honestly we have a team full of has beens, never was and unwanted players compared to real NFL football teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shred003 View Post
    You know... I'm just not ready to give up on McClain and Branch yet.

    I know it's illogical - and I realize how useless that makes my opinion - but I still think Branch and McClain can play a positive role for this team in the future.

    A switch to a 3-4 defense would make Houston and McClain immediately more viable to succeed in the Raider defense.
    I think Reggie Mckenzie will agree with you when it's all said and done. Branch, Seymour, & McClain are safe to me. Just my guess, but I think Reggie is keeping all 3.

    I think Kelly & DHB are the likely goners.

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