ABE32's Cubs Mock Offseason

[JBears79]

Garza trade is solid. I would like to get another prospect out of it though.

I don't think Joba is a starter. Overall though I like most of the stuff you did.

[JP:CubsFan910]

[ABE32]

Sorry I was sending updates to Ron!n after some of the trades went down so I took out Josh Johnson and replaced with Helickson and never updated the team. And Joba was supposed to be Haren. If you get my drift so that stuff never got updated...agreed Ron!n ? So looking at it as is I agree with some of the arguments but before the trades I likes.


Payroll: 108.39 MM

Traded to Kansas City (Alfonso Soriano-Bryan Lahair) 19.5 for Parker Markel and Alex Colome cubs pay Sorianos 36M entire salary.

Traded to BOS - (Matt Garza and steve clevenger)- 10 Million* Matt Barnes P,Blake Swihart C and Drake Britton LHP

Traded to LAA - (Carlos Marmol) 9.8 Million Dan Haren 1.6 million

Traded to Kansas City (Tony Campana and James Russell) for Joakim Soria 3 years 12 million CL

Trade to Tampa (Josh Vitters Jay Jackson and Trey McNutt) for Jeremy Hellickson

FA Ryan Ludwick 3 year 18.5 Million
FA Melky Crabrea 2 year 8 Million
FA Palcido Palanco 2 Yr 10 Million
FA Ryan Dempster 3 Year 28 Million
FA Geral Laird 2 year 5 Million

1.David DeJesus- 4.250 Million RF
2.Starlin Castro- 5.8 Million SS
3.Anthony Rizzo- 500k 1b
4.Ryan Ludwick 3 yr 6.16 annual salary RF
5.Melky 2 yr 4 mill annual salary CF
6.Ian Stewart- 2.5 Million 3B
7.Wellington Castillo- 500k C
8.Darwin Barney- .750k 2B

SP:
1.Dan Haren 1yr 9.8 million aquired from LAA (Marmol)
2.Jeremy Hellickson 1 yr 500k Million aquired from Tampa (Josh Vitters Jay Jackson and Chris Rusin)
3.Jeff Samardzija- 2.9 Million* 5 years 32.275 Million 6.5 annual salary
4.Brandon McCarthy Free Agent Pick up 3 years 18 million 6 Mill annual salary
5.Travis Wood 450K

BP:
Rafael Dolis- 500k
Lendy Castillo- 500k
Jeff Beliveau- 500k
Casey Coleman -500K
Shawn Camp - 550K
Blake Parker- 500k
Rafael Dolis- 500k
Joakim Soria 3 years 12 million CL

Bench:
Gerald Laird- 5mill 2 year fa pick up Bench
Luis Valbuena- 900k* Bench
Dave Sappelt -500K
Placido Palanco 2 yr 10 million

[JBears79]

The KC one at the top should also be Tampa.

[Cubboy]

With Polanco and Valbuena, the team has two better 3Bs on the bench than the starter.

[davell]

Gato: I specifically said Garza. No, the Red Sox probably have no issue with making a trade with us. Lucchino basically said as much at the GM Meetings. My comment specifically relates to Garza. As he's coming off elbow issues and I seriously doubt they'd take THAT chance, since they have had issue with the Carpenter elbow problem and wanted to re-address everything once he went down. Anyone else on the roster? Garza? No, moreso than most other teams even, due to the circumstances prior.

[flips333]

Gato: I specifically said Garza. No, the Red Sox probably have no issue with making a trade with us. Lucchino basically said as much at the GM Meetings. My comment specifically relates to Garza. As he's coming off elbow issues and I seriously doubt they'd take THAT chance, since they have had issue with the Carpenter elbow problem and wanted to re-address everything once he went down. Anyone else on the roster? Garza? No, moreso than most other teams even, due to the circumstances prior.

Also how does it make sense for a team that is actually rebuilding to trade away 3 of their better prospects for one pitcher with one year control?

[KyleJRM]

Not every team looks at "rebuilding" the way the Cubs do. Some teams think that you can rebuild while also putting a competitive team on the field and not just putting prospects on a pedestal.

[gaughan333]

Not every team looks at "rebuilding" the way the Cubs do. Some teams think that you can rebuild while also putting a competitive team on the field and not just putting prospects on a pedestal.

How does adding an injured, 28 year old pitcher, with 1 year of team control help a rebuild?

[KyleJRM]

How does adding an injured, 28 year old pitcher, with 1 year of team control help a rebuild?

It helps the team win baseball games.

[gaughan333]

It helps the team win baseball games.

If he's healthy...and for 1 year. Short sighted and perhaps naive?

[flips333]

Not every team looks at "rebuilding" the way the Cubs do. Some teams think that you can rebuild while also putting a competitive team on the field and not just putting prospects on a pedestal.

Teams that rebuild by trading away their #1 pitching prospect and 2 other top prospects for one year of broken pitcher, are not going to be very successful in the long run.

[ABE32]

How does adding an injured, 28 year old pitcher, with 1 year of team control help a rebuild?

You flip for better prospects at the deadline kind the prospects I propose trading are older and have not panned out or are blocked at their position.

[ABE32]

Teams that rebuild by trading away their #1 pitching prospect and 2 other top prospects for one year of broken pitcher, are not going to be very successful in the long run.

What number 1 pitching prospect is this you speak of?

[SenorGato]

Matt Barnes. They can find another #1 pitching prospect - Barnes wasn't exactly the way, the truth, and the light coming out of college.