Again and again

[J!E!T!S! JETS!]

I am just as disappointed as the next person about the loss to the Patriots on Thanksgiving. Although I can't say that I was surprised. At the same time that was such a weird game with all kinds of plays happening that I've never seen before in such a short span of time. The Patriots had their way with the Jets on every level. I feel like since the Jets were always a brash team and always mouthing off when they never really had a place to mouth off. They had no credibility. Yes they went to two AFC championship games back to back, but that still does not mean now they had a place as one of the elite teams. In order to be elite, you have to have some humility. I don't see that in anyone but Revis on the Jets. IMO that's the reason every team the Jets play, has a chip on their shoulder and they play like it. The other team is always running harder, hitting harder and playing their hearts out. Jets as a whole think that they are an elite team when really they haven't proven anything to anyone. Every team has its flukes of winning games they were supposed to lose. Just because Jets took the last Patriots game to OT does not mean Jets were the better team. Patriots may not have had a good game in general. New York Jets want so bad to have an identity. That identity is not known to anyone. Not even the Jets coaches. That's why we don't see it. Everything starts with the coaches. Then we need to get younger on defense. Rex needs to stop drafting players that look like a physical specimen. He needs to start drafting people based on talent and heart. I'll take Dwight Freeny who is small for his position over player who looks like they can run through a wall any day. Rex goes crazy over players who look tough. Example; Landry, Maybin, Gholston, Coples. I've read quotes from Rex saying "Did you see the guy? He's big." Well big won't do us any good if they can't play. Not saying Landry can't play. This all needs to be buried. We need better coaches, younger faster players on defense, and we need to have an offense get to know how each other plays and let them work out their problems and tendencies. Jerricho Cotchery said it when he left, the offense is not on the same page. There is too much animosity in that locker room between offensive players. You can never have players give it their all if there's animosity. Let's all have some patience as the team find itself and stop with the blame game on just one or two players. The blame is on the entire team from players to the front office all the way up to Woody. He is the owner, and he has done his part mostly by staying out of the team business unless its financial.

[Realistik84]

I dont want to come off like grammar police, because I could care a less how you write and you have the right to write however you want....right?

With that being said, it is incredibly hard (on the eyes) to read one super long paragraph...to get more people to read your post (which is the intention of posting) I would suggest using paragraphs...

[Realistik84]

I will agree other teams likely give us their best when they play us, but I think the true issue is lack of leadership, both in the lockerroom and the JETS brass.

When we were a successful team, I dont think talent was much different. We had Kris Jenkins on DEF, and I think Scott was well respected then. We had TJ and Cotch, who might not have been the MOST talented but definately GREAT leaders.

Those days are gone, and no body exists to unify the team...this is my biggest beed with Sanchez because it should be him but far from it.

Furthermore to enhance the issue is Rex does not seem to be a good leader and lacks the disciplinarian ability.

[PatrickBateman]

I didn't read your big wall of text, but all I have to say is our QB ran in to his own lineman's ***....

[GreenLantern]

I didn't read your big wall of text, but all I have to say is our QB ran in to his own lineman's ***....

Wonder if Brandon's *** looked as big as that wall of text? If it did then Sanchez was running with his eyes closed!!

[jetsfansince'67]

I would agree that the entire organization (with a few exceptions), from top to bottom has been more about flash/brashness/noise/gimmicks and has lacked leadership with a cohesive vision that is based on substance more than form.

That might sound like a bunch of mumbo-jumbo, but here it is: Robert Wood Johnson IV - Woody doesn't know shite from shinola about football, or much else, but he owned court-side seats to the New York Knicks, and decided he wanted to buy a sports franchise in 2000 when he outbid everyone for the Jets, and I guess we're lucky he outbid Charles F. Dolan - chairmen of Cablevision, who own the Knicks and the Rangers (and look how well they've done).

He is the great grandson of Robert Wood Johnson I, the co-founder of Johnson & Johnson. Woody's talent, or at least his greatest achievements are raising money for charitable organizations, AND has dedicated a great deal of time, and his own money, in promoting research in Type I Diabetes Mellitus, and Systemic Lupus Erythematosus (and other autoimmune diseases). Since 2008, he has devoted most of his time and money in supporting the Republican Party and its candidates.

He has been known for scaring away the best "HC of the NYJ," Bill Belichik (and there were other reasons), and lately, has been known more for raising publicity than a successful franchise, ALTHOUGH - debatable - because the Jets have been to the Playoffs 50% of the time (6 times) since Johnson bought the team, and that is amazingly successful compared to only 8 times in the previous 40 years, so to all my fellow Jet Fans that "found the path to Jet Fandom" (I'm sorry - just kidding) since 1998 - we have been living large compared to the old days - BUT - I submit to you that the Jets biggest media splashes have come the off-seasons after the Giants last 2 Super Bowls - 2007 - Brett Farve (I know), and 2011 - Tim Tebow - so there is some legitimacy to that accusation.

I think the biggest mistake in Woody's hiring was making hard working, dedicated Cap Guru - MrT into GM. I think Mangini's mandate for high character, high functioning players built a team from nothing - 2005 Jets, 4-12, Herm had packed his bags even before the season had started, and in 2006 Mangini and MrT, drafted a couple of stud 1st round O-lineman Ferguson and Mangold, missed terribly on 2nd round Kellen Clemens, and 3rd round Anthony Schlegel, 3rd round Eric Smith (wow - 3 bad picks), but then 4th rounder Brad Smith, and the penalty pick from the Chiefs for "tampering" with Herm, 4th rounder Leon Washington, and 6th rounder, CB Drew Coleman, and with basically NOTHING - Mangini got that team to a 10-6 wildcard berth.

Mangini led team building led to some studs, and some duds, but there's no doubt that his 2008 team, with Farve, was 8-3, Farve didn't have a wealth of offensive weapons, and depending on who writes the history, either Farve's shoulder was damaged - which I believe, but the whole team fell into a stinky funk, and finished 9-7,, Also, that 2008 draft was very stinky - with serious busts 6th pick - Ghoston, 5th round Eric Ainge - QB, 6th round Marcus Henry - WR, 7th round - Nate Garner, OT - with the only players coming out of that draft 30th pick - Dustin Keller, and 4th round pick - Dwight Lowery - CB, now a decent Safety for the Jags. But Mangini and MrT did well with some good FA acquisition's on the O-line, D-line - I'm not ever going to call the Calvin Pace pick-up "good" but it was serviceable.

2009 - REX takes over a veteran team with a fresh, high energy, low experience QB - and HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF FORM OVER FUNCTION - REX's defensive personnel was solid, and add in HIS SCHEMES, and we become a potent defense - but never the "shut them down when we need it," because during crunch time - ability and leadership over-come schemes, especially at the end of a game when the "scheme" is no longer fresh.

I truly don't believe REX has a clue as to what offensive football is all about, and with all the rules promoting offensive football, and REX's schemes getting old, and his players getting old, and FRANKLY - not doing so great on his defensive players drafted, or any of the players drafted - I mean between 2009, and 2010 - we only drafted 7 guys ('09 - Sanchez, Greene, Slauson; '10 - 1st round - Kyle "never going to be an impact player" Wilson; 2nd round - Vlad Ducasse, 4th round - Joe McKnight, 5th round - John Conner - that's pretty weak), and 2011 isn't looking that hot either EXCEPT 1st round - Muhammed Wilkerson, and 5th round Jeremy Kerley - but REX's 2nd pick, 3rd round Kenrick Ellis - has showed 2 years of nothing - I hope he can take over, and be a step up from S. Po'uha - but it's not looking too good.

I think MrT's 2011 contract with Satanio Holmes, and this years deals with Sanchez and David Harris, along with basically doing nothing positive for the offense this off-season, have doomed MrT.

WE need a real "football guy" as our GM. I'd sign on for Bill Polian in a heart beat, MrT can go back to doing what he knows - Cap Guru.

As I understand it - Tony Sparano was REX's idea and choice for offensive coordinator - and I think it just illustrates how wacko REX's philosophy and understanding of offense is, in general. What does Sparano know of a sophisticated passing game, or anything that exceeds O-line play. Just because he was the HC over the Dolphin's creative OC Dan Henning - didn't make him qualified as an offensive genius - in fact, the only time he ever was an OC was 5 years in the mid-90's for the Division I-AA Boston University Terriers. This hiring, and REX's undying belief that "defense wins championships," and all he needs is for an offense to not lose the game for him - this is utterly ridiculous, and it's a shame that the only 2 teams that were effective with that set-up was the 1985 Bears which his Daddy was the DC, and the 2000 Ravens for which REX was a D-line coach. REX's belief that he can't be beat, or that he's the best coach ever - were probably reinforced by a flukey, but wonderful, 2 year period for our NY Jets of reaching the AFC Championship Game. No one can take that away, but 2009 was unbelievably lucky, as was 2010 with 4 miraculous last minute Mark Sanchez led come from behind victories which had nothing to do with his defense, and without which, we would have been 7-9, and not even sniffing the playoffs.

Man - 2010 was a great year to be a Jets Fan. It looked like we had finally figured a few things, but I really think it was the confluence of: the remains of a good team; REX's energy and belief; some serious aligning of the solar system; some serious luck. I hope i'm wrong, and I hope we're just a few injured players, and a few new players away from being a dominant team - BUT - I'm not very confident of any of that, and I think it is going to take "a whole lot of shaking going on," and somehow, I don't think WOODY is going to make that happen - although I don't know why not. Unless we make it to the playoffs - he might be ready to blow the thing up, like he was with the 2008, 9-7 team that limped to the disappointing end, and this time, I think it is definitely time to whack the GM, and maybe the coach, depending on how bad it gets, and who the "new boss is," and it can't be "same as the old boss."

GO JETS!!!

[Mr. Magoo]

I would agree that the entire organization (with a few exceptions), from top to bottom has been more about flash/brashness/noise/gimmicks and has lacked leadership with a cohesive vision that is based on substance more than form.

That might sound like a bunch of mumbo-jumbo, but here it is: Robert Wood Johnson IV - Woody doesn't know shite from shinola about football, or much else, but he owned court-side seats to the New York Knicks, and decided he wanted to buy a sports franchise in 2000 when he outbid everyone for the Jets, and I guess we're lucky he outbid Charles F. Dolan - chairmen of Cablevision, who own the Knicks and the Rangers (and look how well they've done).

He is the great grandson of Robert Wood Johnson I, the co-founder of Johnson & Johnson. Woody's talent, or at least his greatest achievements are raising money for charitable organizations, AND has dedicated a great deal of time, and his own money, in promoting research in Type I Diabetes Mellitus, and Systemic Lupus Erythematosus (and other autoimmune diseases). Since 2008, he has devoted most of his time and money in supporting the Republican Party and its candidates.

He has been known for scaring away the best "HC of the NYJ," Bill Belichik (and there were other reasons), and lately, has been known more for raising publicity than a successful franchise, ALTHOUGH - debatable - because the Jets have been to the Playoffs 50% of the time (6 times) since Johnson bought the team, and that is amazingly successful compared to only 8 times in the previous 40 years, so to all my fellow Jet Fans that "found the path to Jet Fandom" (I'm sorry - just kidding) since 1998 - we have been living large compared to the old days - BUT - I submit to you that the Jets biggest media splashes have come the off-seasons after the Giants last 2 Super Bowls - 2007 - Brett Farve (I know), and 2011 - Tim Tebow - so there is some legitimacy to that accusation.

I think the biggest mistake in Woody's hiring was making hard working, dedicated Cap Guru - MrT into GM. I think Mangini's mandate for high character, high functioning players built a team from nothing - 2005 Jets, 4-12, Herm had packed his bags even before the season had started, and in 2006 Mangini and MrT, drafted a couple of stud 1st round O-lineman Ferguson and Mangold, missed terribly on 2nd round Kellen Clemens, and 3rd round Anthony Schlegel, 3rd round Eric Smith (wow - 3 bad picks), but then 4th rounder Brad Smith, and the penalty pick from the Chiefs for "tampering" with Herm, 4th rounder Leon Washington, and 6th rounder, CB Drew Coleman, and with basically NOTHING - Mangini got that team to a 10-6 wildcard berth.

Mangini led team building led to some studs, and some duds, but there's no doubt that his 2008 team, with Farve, was 8-3, Farve didn't have a wealth of offensive weapons, and depending on who writes the history, either Farve's shoulder was damaged - which I believe, but the whole team fell into a stinky funk, and finished 9-7,, Also, that 2008 draft was very stinky - with serious busts 6th pick - Ghoston, 5th round Eric Ainge - QB, 6th round Marcus Henry - WR, 7th round - Nate Garner, OT - with the only players coming out of that draft 30th pick - Dustin Keller, and 4th round pick - Dwight Lowery - CB, now a decent Safety for the Jags. But Mangini and MrT did well with some good FA acquisition's on the O-line, D-line - I'm not ever going to call the Calvin Pace pick-up "good" but it was serviceable.

2009 - REX takes over a veteran team with a fresh, high energy, low experience QB - and HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF FORM OVER FUNCTION - REX's defensive personnel was solid, and add in HIS SCHEMES, and we become a potent defense - but never the "shut them down when we need it," because during crunch time - ability and leadership over-come schemes, especially at the end of a game when the "scheme" is no longer fresh.

I truly don't believe REX has a clue as to what offensive football is all about, and with all the rules promoting offensive football, and REX's schemes getting old, and his players getting old, and FRANKLY - not doing so great on his defensive players drafted, or any of the players drafted - I mean between 2009, and 2010 - we only drafted 7 guys ('09 - Sanchez, Greene, Slauson; '10 - 1st round - Kyle "never going to be an impact player" Wilson; 2nd round - Vlad Ducasse, 4th round - Joe McKnight, 5th round - John Conner - that's pretty weak), and 2011 isn't looking that hot either EXCEPT 1st round - Muhammed Wilkerson, and 5th round Jeremy Kerley - but REX's 2nd pick, 3rd round Kenrick Ellis - has showed 2 years of nothing - I hope he can take over, and be a step up from S. Po'uha - but it's not looking too good.

I think MrT's 2011 contract with Satanio Holmes, and this years deals with Sanchez and David Harris, along with basically doing nothing positive for the offense this off-season, have doomed MrT.

WE need a real "football guy" as our GM. I'd sign on for Bill Polian in a heart beat, MrT can go back to doing what he knows - Cap Guru.

As I understand it - Tony Sparano was REX's idea and choice for offensive coordinator - and I think it just illustrates how wacko REX's philosophy and understanding of offense is, in general. What does Sparano know of a sophisticated passing game, or anything that exceeds O-line play. Just because he was the HC over the Dolphin's creative OC Dan Henning - didn't make him qualified as an offensive genius - in fact, the only time he ever was an OC was 5 years in the mid-90's for the Division I-AA Boston University Terriers. This hiring, and REX's undying belief that "defense wins championships," and all he needs is for an offense to not lose the game for him - this is utterly ridiculous, and it's a shame that the only 2 teams that were effective with that set-up was the 1985 Bears which his Daddy was the DC, and the 2000 Ravens for which REX was a D-line coach. REX's belief that he can't be beat, or that he's the best coach ever - were probably reinforced by a flukey, but wonderful, 2 year period for our NY Jets of reaching the AFC Championship Game. No one can take that away, but 2009 was unbelievably lucky, as was 2010 with 4 miraculous last minute Mark Sanchez led come from behind victories which had nothing to do with his defense, and without which, we would have been 7-9, and not even sniffing the playoffs.

Man - 2010 was a great year to be a Jets Fan. It looked like we had finally figured a few things, but I really think it was the confluence of: the remains of a good team; REX's energy and belief; some serious aligning of the solar system; some serious luck. I hope i'm wrong, and I hope we're just a few injured players, and a few new players away from being a dominant team - BUT - I'm not very confident of any of that, and I think it is going to take "a whole lot of shaking going on," and somehow, I don't think WOODY is going to make that happen - although I don't know why not. Unless we make it to the playoffs - he might be ready to blow the thing up, like he was with the 2008, 9-7 team that limped to the disappointing end, and this time, I think it is definitely time to whack the GM, and maybe the coach, depending on how bad it gets, and who the "new boss is," and it can't be "same as the old boss."

GO JETS!!!

Seems more like jibber jabber than mumbo jumbo, but, yeah, what he said.

[ccugrad1]

I would agree that the entire organization (with a few exceptions), from top to bottom has been more about flash/brashness/noise/gimmicks and has lacked leadership with a cohesive vision that is based on substance more than form.

That might sound like a bunch of mumbo-jumbo, but here it is: Robert Wood Johnson IV - Woody doesn't know shite from shinola about football, or much else, but he owned court-side seats to the New York Knicks, and decided he wanted to buy a sports franchise in 2000 when he outbid everyone for the Jets, and I guess we're lucky he outbid Charles F. Dolan - chairmen of Cablevision, who own the Knicks and the Rangers (and look how well they've done).

He is the great grandson of Robert Wood Johnson I, the co-founder of Johnson & Johnson. Woody's talent, or at least his greatest achievements are raising money for charitable organizations, AND has dedicated a great deal of time, and his own money, in promoting research in Type I Diabetes Mellitus, and Systemic Lupus Erythematosus (and other autoimmune diseases). Since 2008, he has devoted most of his time and money in supporting the Republican Party and its candidates.

He has been known for scaring away the best "HC of the NYJ," Bill Belichik (and there were other reasons), and lately, has been known more for raising publicity than a successful franchise, ALTHOUGH - debatable - because the Jets have been to the Playoffs 50% of the time (6 times) since Johnson bought the team, and that is amazingly successful compared to only 8 times in the previous 40 years, so to all my fellow Jet Fans that "found the path to Jet Fandom" (I'm sorry - just kidding) since 1998 - we have been living large compared to the old days - BUT - I submit to you that the Jets biggest media splashes have come the off-seasons after the Giants last 2 Super Bowls - 2007 - Brett Farve (I know), and 2011 - Tim Tebow - so there is some legitimacy to that accusation.

I think the biggest mistake in Woody's hiring was making hard working, dedicated Cap Guru - MrT into GM. I think Mangini's mandate for high character, high functioning players built a team from nothing - 2005 Jets, 4-12, Herm had packed his bags even before the season had started, and in 2006 Mangini and MrT, drafted a couple of stud 1st round O-lineman Ferguson and Mangold, missed terribly on 2nd round Kellen Clemens, and 3rd round Anthony Schlegel, 3rd round Eric Smith (wow - 3 bad picks), but then 4th rounder Brad Smith, and the penalty pick from the Chiefs for "tampering" with Herm, 4th rounder Leon Washington, and 6th rounder, CB Drew Coleman, and with basically NOTHING - Mangini got that team to a 10-6 wildcard berth.

Mangini led team building led to some studs, and some duds, but there's no doubt that his 2008 team, with Farve, was 8-3, Farve didn't have a wealth of offensive weapons, and depending on who writes the history, either Farve's shoulder was damaged - which I believe, but the whole team fell into a stinky funk, and finished 9-7,, Also, that 2008 draft was very stinky - with serious busts 6th pick - Ghoston, 5th round Eric Ainge - QB, 6th round Marcus Henry - WR, 7th round - Nate Garner, OT - with the only players coming out of that draft 30th pick - Dustin Keller, and 4th round pick - Dwight Lowery - CB, now a decent Safety for the Jags. But Mangini and MrT did well with some good FA acquisition's on the O-line, D-line - I'm not ever going to call the Calvin Pace pick-up "good" but it was serviceable.

2009 - REX takes over a veteran team with a fresh, high energy, low experience QB - and HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF FORM OVER FUNCTION - REX's defensive personnel was solid, and add in HIS SCHEMES, and we become a potent defense - but never the "shut them down when we need it," because during crunch time - ability and leadership over-come schemes, especially at the end of a game when the "scheme" is no longer fresh.

I truly don't believe REX has a clue as to what offensive football is all about, and with all the rules promoting offensive football, and REX's schemes getting old, and his players getting old, and FRANKLY - not doing so great on his defensive players drafted, or any of the players drafted - I mean between 2009, and 2010 - we only drafted 7 guys ('09 - Sanchez, Greene, Slauson; '10 - 1st round - Kyle "never going to be an impact player" Wilson; 2nd round - Vlad Ducasse, 4th round - Joe McKnight, 5th round - John Conner - that's pretty weak), and 2011 isn't looking that hot either EXCEPT 1st round - Muhammed Wilkerson, and 5th round Jeremy Kerley - but REX's 2nd pick, 3rd round Kenrick Ellis - has showed 2 years of nothing - I hope he can take over, and be a step up from S. Po'uha - but it's not looking too good.

I think MrT's 2011 contract with Satanio Holmes, and this years deals with Sanchez and David Harris, along with basically doing nothing positive for the offense this off-season, have doomed MrT.

WE need a real "football guy" as our GM. I'd sign on for Bill Polian in a heart beat, MrT can go back to doing what he knows - Cap Guru.

As I understand it - Tony Sparano was REX's idea and choice for offensive coordinator - and I think it just illustrates how wacko REX's philosophy and understanding of offense is, in general. What does Sparano know of a sophisticated passing game, or anything that exceeds O-line play. Just because he was the HC over the Dolphin's creative OC Dan Henning - didn't make him qualified as an offensive genius - in fact, the only time he ever was an OC was 5 years in the mid-90's for the Division I-AA Boston University Terriers. This hiring, and REX's undying belief that "defense wins championships," and all he needs is for an offense to not lose the game for him - this is utterly ridiculous, and it's a shame that the only 2 teams that were effective with that set-up was the 1985 Bears which his Daddy was the DC, and the 2000 Ravens for which REX was a D-line coach. REX's belief that he can't be beat, or that he's the best coach ever - were probably reinforced by a flukey, but wonderful, 2 year period for our NY Jets of reaching the AFC Championship Game. No one can take that away, but 2009 was unbelievably lucky, as was 2010 with 4 miraculous last minute Mark Sanchez led come from behind victories which had nothing to do with his defense, and without which, we would have been 7-9, and not even sniffing the playoffs.

Man - 2010 was a great year to be a Jets Fan. It looked like we had finally figured a few things, but I really think it was the confluence of: the remains of a good team; REX's energy and belief; some serious aligning of the solar system; some serious luck. I hope i'm wrong, and I hope we're just a few injured players, and a few new players away from being a dominant team - BUT - I'm not very confident of any of that, and I think it is going to take "a whole lot of shaking going on," and somehow, I don't think WOODY is going to make that happen - although I don't know why not. Unless we make it to the playoffs - he might be ready to blow the thing up, like he was with the 2008, 9-7 team that limped to the disappointing end, and this time, I think it is definitely time to whack the GM, and maybe the coach, depending on how bad it gets, and who the "new boss is," and it can't be "same as the old boss."

GO JETS!!!

These are the two parts I'd like to look at: With a lot of Mangini's picks too, the guys drafted came from very tough conferences with top flight competition. If you look at some of Rex's picks in his era, they have been from smaller conference schools with lesser competition. Not sure if that has anything to do with anything, but I have heard people bring that argument up.

Second of all, yes, the NFL is an offense driven league. I am a firm believer you don't need a great defense to win in today's NFL. Granted, you don't want one that is going to give up 30-40 points every week, but you better have an offense that can average 24-30+ points week in and week out. I remember in the Jets 2nd preseason game, the guy that was announcing with Ian Eagle stated plain as day, "If you aren't averaging 24PPG or higher, you aren't going to the playoffs." If you look at the Jets so far this year, here are some of their offensive performances:

10 vs Pittsburgh
0 vs San Francisco
17 vs Houston
9 vs Miami
0 vs Seattle
17 vs New England
13 vs Miami

Those aren't getting it done in today's NFL. And the sad part about things is all the mock drafts I have seen so far have the Jets drafting defense in round 1.

[John X Doe]

In defense of Rex's OC choice, who else was out there? Schotty's delayed departure didn't help matters either. The team and Rex are too nice to be successful. A bolder, more direct approach would have been to can him the first day the season ended giving you opportunity for more available prospective OC's. Norv Turner and Andy Reid would've been great hires but were each wrongfully given another year.

To be fair, some of you ought to at least give a list of candidates you were hoping they would sign. But most of you would rather criticize without being accountable. That's usually the case here and instead of answering such questions, it's easier to attack the questioner to better distract your lack of knowledge. Just like a politician.

Also, to be fair, one should at the very least acknowledge the decimation of players on this team. Your #1 goes down early, the #2 is slow in developing, your #1 TE misses about 8 games, your interior linemen are invisible. I'm not defending more than I'm facing the reality here. Mark has been shaky. Do you think anyone else could succeed with this group? It's no surprise that Rex would want someone who promised to mix some balance into the offense (which he's done). Who else was out there? I don't recall any prominenet names.

[scopepts]

In defense of Rex's OC choice, who else was out there? Schotty's delayed departure didn't help matters either. The team and Rex are too nice to be successful. A bolder, more direct approach would have been to can him the first day the season ended giving you opportunity for more available prospective OC's. Norv Turner and Andy Reid would've been great hires but were each wrongfully given another year.

To be fair, some of you ought to at least give a list of candidates you were hoping they would sign. But most of you would rather criticize without being accountable. That's usually the case here and instead of answering such questions, it's easier to attack the questioner to better distract your lack of knowledge. Just like a politician.

Also, to be fair, one should at the very least acknowledge the decimation of players on this team. Your #1 goes down early, the #2 is slow in developing, your #1 TE misses about 8 games, your interior linemen are invisible. I'm not defending more than I'm facing the reality here. Mark has been shaky. Do you think anyone else could succeed with this group? It's no surprise that Rex would want someone who promised to mix some balance into the offense (which he's done). Who else was out there? I don't recall any prominenet names.

You honestly think after very good careers as HC's these men would consider being a coordinator? Uhhhhhhhhh no