The PAT

[richiesaurus310]

After the injury to Gronk I have seen multiple articles arguing for the elimination of the field goal in extra point attempts. I personally like the current NFL scoring system, but I don't like how easy the field goal from the 2 yard line is.
What can be done to make this more difficult yet not make it impossible to go for 2 if need be? Here are some options I thought of, what can you guys think of?

Let me point out that I'm not concerned about injuries on the PAT. I've just noticed that the subject has been brought up since the injury to Gronk occured.

1. Make extra points start at the 10 yard line instead of the 2. Field goal success rates fall a few percentage points so it is not as automatic, and it would still be very possible to go for 2 from the ten yard line.

2. Make teams drop kick the ball rather than kick field goals. Drop kicks are legal right now, but nobody ever does it. Well other than Doug Flutie. You could keep the 2 yard line or move the line of scrimmage back to the 5 possibly.

3. Force teams to always go for 2 like college overtime rules after the third overtime I believe.

4. Make the person who scored the touchdown kick the extra point.

5. Kick the extra point from the line of scrimmage of the touchdown scoring play.

[NormSizedMidget]

After the injury to Gronk I have seen multiple articles arguing for the elimination of the field goal in extra point attempts. I personally like the current NFL scoring system, but I don't like how easy the field goal from the 2 yard line is.
What can be done to make this more difficult yet not make it impossible to go for 2 if need be? Here are some options I thought of, what can you guys think of?

1. Make extra points start at the 10 yard line instead of the 2. Field goal success rates fall a few percentage points so it is not as automatic, and it would still be very possible to go for 2 from the ten yard line.

2. Make teams drop kick the ball rather than kick field goals. Drop kicks are legal right now, but nobody ever does it. Well other than Doug Flutie. You could keep the 2 yard line or move the line of scrimmage back to the 5 possibly.

3. Force teams to always go for 2 like college overtime rules after the third overtime I believe.

4. Make the person who scored the touchdown kick the extra point.

5. Kick the extra point from the line of scrimmage of the touchdown scoring play.

I want #5 after a 99 yard TD.

[alexander_37]

I like the make the person who scored kick it. Imagine defensive lineman scores

Just imagine Raji kicking the PAT.

[NormSizedMidget]

I like the make the person who scored kick it. Imagine defensive lineman scores

Just imagine Raji kicking the PAT.

Now this I can get behind.

But since injuries brought this up I guess...if he wanted to be serious. That will not help.



In all seriousness, the PAT is SUPPOSED TO BE EASY. That's why it's easy. Screwing it with it will change the whole dynamic of the game that it's had so long.

[LegendX]

Move the attempt further back.

I have other ideas, but everyone just gets mad about it, and then they proceed to ***** and moan about the current way, basically people who will ***** about anything and everything.

[NormSizedMidget]

Move the attempt further back.

I have other ideas, but everyone just gets mad about it, and then they proceed to ***** and moan about the current way, basically people who will ***** about anything and everything.

I'd be okay with removing the PAT and only having to go out if you're going for two. I've said this many times. I know you're mad at the world but please what are your ideas.

[c_reinert]

After the injury to Gronk I have seen multiple articles arguing for the elimination of the field goal in extra point attempts. I personally like the current NFL scoring system, but I don't like how easy the field goal from the 2 yard line is.
What can be done to make this more difficult yet not make it impossible to go for 2 if need be? Here are some options I thought of, what can you guys think of?

1. Make extra points start at the 10 yard line instead of the 2. Field goal success rates fall a few percentage points so it is not as automatic, and it would still be very possible to go for 2 from the ten yard line.

2. Make teams drop kick the ball rather than kick field goals. Drop kicks are legal right now, but nobody ever does it. Well other than Doug Flutie. You could keep the 2 yard line or move the line of scrimmage back to the 5 possibly.

3. Force teams to always go for 2 like college overtime rules after the third overtime I believe.

4. Make the person who scored the touchdown kick the extra point.

5. Kick the extra point from the line of scrimmage of the touchdown scoring play.

Everything you said was absolutely retarded. I want to apologize to every person who stumbled in here and read this post.

[dbroncos78087]

If anything, they should make a touchdown worth 7 and the 2 pt conversion becomes a gamble. You can gain an extra point but you lose a point if you don't get it. So it still becomes 6 points if you go for 2 and don't get it.

[c_reinert]

After the injury to Gronk I have seen multiple articles arguing for the elimination of the field goal in extra point attempts. I personally like the current NFL scoring system, but I don't like how easy the field goal from the 2 yard line is.
What can be done to make this more difficult yet not make it impossible to go for 2 if need be? Here are some options I thought of, what can you guys think of?

1. Make extra points start at the 10 yard line instead of the 2. Field goal success rates fall a few percentage points so it is not as automatic, and it would still be very possible to go for 2 from the ten yard line.

2. Make teams drop kick the ball rather than kick field goals. Drop kicks are legal right now, but nobody ever does it. Well other than Doug Flutie. You could keep the 2 yard line or move the line of scrimmage back to the 5 possibly.

3. Force teams to always go for 2 like college overtime rules after the third overtime I believe.

4. Make the person who scored the touchdown kick the extra point.

5. Kick the extra point from the line of scrimmage of the touchdown scoring play.

1. Yard center field field goal is still automatic in the NFL and notw you kill the chances of the offense of going for two, the need an entire first downs worth of yardage to score.

2. There's a reason no one drop kicks, because its stupid.

3. You eliminate the whole dynamic if the game of deciding to go for 1 or 2. Eliminates a ton of strategy and drama. Also, how does that eliminate injuries if you're now going to force starters to be on the field for every PAT?

4. You're worried about injuries on PAT attempts and now you want to force teams to put offensive starters in the field during attempts. And what about passing TDs? Two different players are credited with the score. How do you decide who kicks the extra point?

5. So you're going to kick off from your own 1 yard line if they punch it in on the goal line? Or kick off from their 1 yard line if its a 99 yard TD? And what about kick off return TDs? There is no LOS on that play.

Please never post anything ever again

[c_reinert]

If anything, they should make a touchdown worth 7 and the 2 pt conversion becomes a gamble. You can gain an extra point but you lose a point if you don't get it. So it still becomes 6 points if you go for 2 and don't get it.

So what you are saying is, keep it the exact same way it is now?

[Nymfan87]

So what you are saying is, keep it the exact same way it is now?

He's saying keep it the way it is now but make the extra point automatic.

[dolphan]

Maybe move it back 10 yards, but its supposed to be a gimme anyways so why bother... You have something good, dont mess it up. Now as for the GRONK situation... How come nobody seems to be blaming Bellicheck, Your up 30+ Late in the 4th Quarter and yet your putting your most important player (brady aside) out there to block for a PAT?? Really? Why not put another 1 of the 128 TEs on your roster? Or is Bill Bellicheck such an "amazing football mind" that no one ever questions his decisions? I also recall him playing his starters in a week 17 game a few years back and Wes ending up tearing his ACL and was lost for the playoffs... Sometimes this issue really annoys me, the media is so quick to jump on the patriots and praise them, but they never mention anything like this

[richiesaurus310]

Why is the PAT supposed to be a gimme? That's the part I don't understand I guess. Why not make it a bit more difficult?

[c_reinert]

So what you are saying is, keep it the exact same way it is now?

He's saying keep it the way it is now but make the extra point automatic.

Again... Keeping it the way it is now. The extra point is automatic

[c_reinert]

Why is the PAT supposed to be a gimme? That's the part I don't understand I guess. Why not make it a bit more difficult?

Because its what makes a touchdown worth more than 2 field goals. And it's automatic extra point because you decline it and then take the risk to gamble and go for more points