2013 Offseason Discussion: Part 2

[Leandres_sf]

Swisher. I don't like Blanco batting 7th. Pagan, Belt, Sandoval, Posey, Pence, Swisher, Arias, Crawford.

Yup. Would prefer Swisher/Arias. Blanco isn't suited for the 7th hole.

You're crazy, but the difference between Scutaro and Arias is much smaller than between Blanco and Swisher.

Agreed, the upgrade of Swisher over Blanco is much higher than Scutaro over Arias. I also really like Blanco as a pinch hitter/runner and the 4th OF.

[Greedy22]

I'll take Jeffy over the other Kobe everytime.

[tadmanny]

This came earlier in the day:



https://twitter.com/CSNBaggs/status/276095647109763072

This contradicts the other tweet about Giants considering Swisher a big ticket item.

I thought the same thing. Baggs is really bugging me with his negativity and ****. It seems like he is just saying things to keep fans following him on twitter at this point. How could you say this and then like 3 hours later say he is a big ticket item. it pisses me off.

[clementi]

10 games out in the AL East behind the Yankees and Orioles isn't in the race. We were actually tied for the division when he came here. He did nothing but not hit. Point proven right now. Some guys are just winners. Some guys aren't. He doesn't fit our team at all. And he isn't very good. Numbers lie. Winners show up when it matters. Example) Tim Lincecum. When the games are on the line and one at bat determines moving on and going home, that .300 average doesn't matter. Aka Carlos Beltran.

[Greedy22]

.325/.367/.439 .352 wOBA wRC+ 128
.270/.304/.389 .296 wOBA wRC+ 87

Which guy do you prefer clementi?

[sfgiants5518]

10 games out in the AL East behind the Yankees and Orioles isn't in the race. We were actually tied for the division when he came here. He did nothing but not hit. Point proven right now. Some guys are just winners. Some guys aren't. He doesn't fit our team at all. And he isn't very good. Numbers lie. Winners show up when it matters. Example) Tim Lincecum. When the games are on the line and one at bat determines moving on and going home, that .300 average doesn't matter. Aka Carlos Beltran.

I'm lost, what are you talking about?

[Greedy22]

10 games out in the AL East behind the Yankees and Orioles isn't in the race. We were actually tied for the division when he came here. He did nothing but not hit. Point proven right now. Some guys are just winners. Some guys aren't. He doesn't fit our team at all. And he isn't very good. Numbers lie. Winners show up when it matters. Example) Tim Lincecum. When the games are on the line and one at bat determines moving on and going home, that .300 average doesn't matter. Aka Carlos Beltran.

Try 3 games.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/ind...dings#20121003

[SFrush90]

10 games out in the AL East behind the Yankees and Orioles isn't in the race. We were actually tied for the division when he came here. He did nothing but not hit. Point proven right now. Some guys are just winners. Some guys aren't. He doesn't fit our team at all. And he isn't very good. Numbers lie. Winners show up when it matters. Example) Tim Lincecum. When the games are on the line and one at bat determines moving on and going home, that .300 average doesn't matter. Aka Carlos Beltran.

The Rays were 3 game back of the Wild Card when the season ended. Your wrong again. It's ludicrous to think he didn't do well because he was in contention. This year just proved why you're wrong. He didn't just hit .325, which I really don't put much stock in batting average anyway, but he also had a .806 OPS which is above average and a .352 wOBA.

I agree with you he did nothing for us, but to believe he didn't do anything strictly because we were in contention is downright ridiculous reasoning. He has a career .733 OPS. That's just about average. You're making him out to be some scrub. Over an eight year career, numbers don't lie. I don't why you're saying, "numbers lie".

So you're saying Beltran doesn't show up when it's crunch time? Well he only batted .323/.346/.495 .396 wOBA with us and has the best OPS in Postseason history. You're wrong again. You don't judge a hitter's worth by looking at their batting average which you seem to do because you only provided Keppinger's and Beltran's average.

[WilsonFan]

Still say trade Timmy before its too late

[sfgiants5518]

Hank Schulman retweeted me... life = complete:

Agreed (tho I have no confirmation they've talked). RT @SPearlst: 1st name that comes to mind... Jason Grilli

https://twitter.com/hankschulman/sta...84494497742849

[WilsonFan]

Looks like the swisher days could be slowly coming to a close. Marco 3 years for 20 mil

https://twitter.com/csnbaggs/status/276180661348470784

[sfgiants5518]

You posted that 2 min ago and there's already a thread dedicated to it.

[sfgiants5518]

I want Corey Hart.

[SFrush90]

Still say trade Timmy before its too late

Why? It's one bad year.

I want Corey Hart.

I'd be happy with him, but I think he might have inflated numbers from playing at Miller Park. He's got a difference in career home/away OPS of .126.

[Greedy22]

The Rays were 3 game back of the Wild Card when the season ended. Your wrong again. It's ludicrous to think he didn't do well because he was in contention. This year just proved why you're wrong. He didn't just hit .325, which I really don't put much stock in batting average anyway, but he also had a .806 OPS which is above average and a .352 wOBA.

I agree with you he did nothing for us, but to believe he didn't do anything strictly because we were in contention is downright ridiculous reasoning. He has a career .733 OPS. That's just about average. You're making him out to be some scrub. Over an eight year career, numbers don't lie. I don't why you're saying, "numbers lie".

So you're saying Beltran doesn't show up when it's crunch time? Well he only batted .323/.346/.495 .396 wOBA with us and has the best OPS in Postseason history. You're wrong again. You don't judge a hitter's worth by looking at their batting average which you seem to do because you only provided Keppinger's and Beltran's average.

Thought you learned proper usage in 1st grade?

clementi has no idea what he is talking about, he's talking out of his ***.