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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illa215 View Post
    So he'll get less than Upton, but he probably shouldn't. Pagan's easily the most under rated player in baseball.
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illa215 View Post
    So he'll get less than Upton, but he probably shouldn't. Pagan's easily the most under rated player in baseball.
    Not really. He's a very up and down hitter. He'll hide for months and then explode for a month.

    April: .250/.281/.478

    May: .375/.422/.462

    June: .245/.302/.306

    July: .210/.244/.309

    August: .342/.415/.588

    Sept/Oct: .276/.317/.448

    And he plays just average defense in center and takes bad routes to the ball. He's better suited for left.
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  3. #183
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    Well, he's a 5 win player two out the last three years... I think you guys may be a little harsh on him.

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  5. #185
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    With the braves paying all that money for upton, I guess that takes them out of the swisher sweepstakes. Rumor was it was braves bosox and giants after swisher.

  6. #186
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    After trading Jonathan Sanchez to the Royals...would they really deal with us again on Lincecum, especially with Lincecum had a really down year. I think they have a buyer beware when talking to us about a pitcher not named Cain, Bum, and maybe Voge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFrush90 View Post
    The Royals are said that they've been talking about Lester and Shields though. They're not as expensive as Lincecum, but they might take him because of how successful he's been.
    Shields and Lester make nearly half of what Lincecum makes annually and have pitched much better than Lincecum recently. Lincecum's stock is at an all-time low and could not even get a Myers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiderdave View Post
    With the braves paying all that money for upton, I guess that takes them out of the swisher sweepstakes. Rumor was it was braves bosox and giants after swisher.
    It might push a team like the Phillies though to be more in it. I think they were in on Upton as well, and they are a team that needs an outfielder.

    Could be Pagan or Bourn too, who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTL View Post
    Shields and Lester make nearly half of what Lincecum makes annually and have pitched much better than Lincecum recently. Lincecum's stock is at an all-time low and could not even get a Myers.
    I don't really believe what I said that Lincecum could possibly fetch Myers. Just that Dayton Moore is Dayton Moore and they look to be desperate for pitching.
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    anyone hear heard the rumors that the dodgers are in on B. Weezy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFrush90 View Post
    I don't really believe what I said that Lincecum could possibly fetch Myers. Just that Dayton Moore is Dayton Moore and they look to be desperate for pitching.
    I thought that's what you were replying to, a Lincecum for Myers scenario by referencing the Shields and Lester rumors. I was just saying Shields and Lester actually have trade value while Lincecum does not.

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    WAR is fact
    Pythagorean records and win expectancy have value
    Strikeouts are overrated
    Best regular season record = best team
    Regular season > Post season
    The difference between me and you is I don't need the internet to discuss baseball intelligently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban View Post
    anyone hear heard the rumors that the dodgers are in on B. Weezy?
    Haven't heard any rumors. Just heard that LA would be his first choice outside of SF.
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    If wilson goes to La,he won't get a 3rd ring

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    If Wilson goes to LA at least I'll have some expensive toilet paper

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFrush90 View Post
    Haven't heard any rumors. Just heard that LA would be his first choice outside of SF.
    it's because he lives in Malibu in the off season, though i think the angels have an actual need for him and are more likely to get him.

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