2013 Offseason Discussion: Part 2

[WilsonFan]

Still say trade Timmy before its too late

[sacgiants1213]

Hank Schulman retweeted me... life = complete:

Agreed (tho I have no confirmation they've talked). RT @SPearlst: 1st name that comes to mind... Jason Grilli

https://twitter.com/hankschulman/sta...84494497742849

[WilsonFan]

Looks like the swisher days could be slowly coming to a close. Marco 3 years for 20 mil

https://twitter.com/csnbaggs/status/276180661348470784

[sacgiants1213]

You posted that 2 min ago and there's already a thread dedicated to it.

[sacgiants1213]

I want Corey Hart.

[Rush]

Still say trade Timmy before its too late

Why? It's one bad year.

I want Corey Hart.

I'd be happy with him, but I think he might have inflated numbers from playing at Miller Park. He's got a difference in career home/away OPS of .126.

[Greedy22]

The Rays were 3 game back of the Wild Card when the season ended. Your wrong again. It's ludicrous to think he didn't do well because he was in contention. This year just proved why you're wrong. He didn't just hit .325, which I really don't put much stock in batting average anyway, but he also had a .806 OPS which is above average and a .352 wOBA.

I agree with you he did nothing for us, but to believe he didn't do anything strictly because we were in contention is downright ridiculous reasoning. He has a career .733 OPS. That's just about average. You're making him out to be some scrub. Over an eight year career, numbers don't lie. I don't why you're saying, "numbers lie".

So you're saying Beltran doesn't show up when it's crunch time? Well he only batted .323/.346/.495 .396 wOBA with us and has the best OPS in Postseason history. You're wrong again. You don't judge a hitter's worth by looking at their batting average which you seem to do because you only provided Keppinger's and Beltran's average.

Thought you learned proper usage in 1st grade?

clementi has no idea what he is talking about, he's talking out of his ***.

[Rush]

Thought you learned proper usage in 1st grade?

clementi has no idea what he is talking about, he's talking out of his ***.

I am ashamed of myself. I hate it when I do that.

Totally agree about clementi.

[Greedy22]

I am ashamed of myself. I hate it when I do that.

Totally agree about clementi.

It was too easy.

I actually liked Keppinger in his time with us too

[WilsonFan]

Because he is at best value for trade. We know Tim will want big money, might even test FA. Might as well get something for him.

[cencal]

Does anyone think delmon young is worth a look he is a good bat and we could use blanco as a defensive replacement.

[Rush]

Because he is at best value for trade. We know Tim will want big money, might even test FA. Might as well get something for him.

We're not going to get the return we could've coming off this season and being a free agent. Plus there's no one to replace him.

Does anyone think delmon young is worth a look he is a good bat and we could use blanco as a defensive replacement.

Hellllllll no to Young. He's terrible defensively and is just average with the bat (below average the past two seasons). He's strictly a DH.

[Leandres_sf]

Because he is at best value for trade. We know Tim will want big money, might even test FA. Might as well get something for him.

How is he "at best value" for a trade? This makes no sense.

[Greedy22]

Does he mean peak value? Because even at that point it's even worse.

[WilsonFan]

Obviously he had his "best" value in recent years. What I'm trying to say is I think if we wait and he continues the struggles his value won't get us as good of a player. Right now he could go either way and I am sure there are plenty of clubs that would take that gamble. Or we don't trade him and he decides to test free agency. Just my opinion.