Jeremy Lin exposed

[mightybosstone]

Sigh.... I remember when this thread was about basketball...

[Gram]

Sigh.... I remember when this thread was about basketball...

Sorry.

[alexander_37]

Came up with your own joke this time how nice. At least this time you didn't have to use your face!

LOL WTF???? Seriously????

[Giants #1 Fan]

I would post a picture of mine but people have been getting banned for that.

I'm sure you wouldn't.

[alexander_37]

It seems like Jeremy Lin is Giants #1's uncle who diddled him a few years ago.

Came up with your own joke this time how nice. At least this time you didn't have to use your face!

Bump because Giants fan got butthurt and left

[NYY 26 to 7]

Look at that list and you know what you'll find? That most of those teams won NBA Championships with players they drafted or acquired at a young age and then grew up together. Very rarely will you see teams pieced together like the Celtics and Heat the last few years. Building teams from the ground up allows them to gel together and gives you a much wider window of opportunity.

(Also, your Rockets title take is ********, because the Bulls got regularly destroyed by the Rockets during the regular season and Jordan played in the 95 playoffs but was bested by the Magic, who the Rockets swept.)

You guys need to relax a bit. Also all the people saying Jordan was there in 95 come on. A mid-season comeback not in basketball shape and rusty that half season and your trying to say the rockets would have won anyway. Its not even anti rockets to say that NO ONE was beating Jordan if he didn't retire did you people even watch back then? Stop taking everything as some personal slight against you and your team.

If you look at that list you will find Detroit, Mavs, Lakers, Heat all acquired the majority of their team in free agency. Free agency is different nowadays and guys are approaching it differently which we have seen the past few years. Its not easy to hang on to your guys for life now. My post wasn't even a pro Knicks post and I said its more likely than not that the Heat will not be beat for years. I just said I like my team taking the chance. Also by your logic how is acquiring Harden much different than Melo other than he wasn't the star of his team before (I certainly think he can be just hadn't been proven).

Why have Rockets fans become so confrontational and defensive. People can think the Lin move wasn't a good move and Harden was a great move. It wouldn't be the 1st time and NBA franchise was wrong about a player. The Knicks have made hundreds of bad moves.

This forum would be a much more fun place to have discussions without people getting so defensive and just face palming, insulting others, making condescending remarks, and maybe the worst the good old "if you think that you must be stupid" this is all opinion based stuff and people like to pretend that anything you say can be factually backed up. Even when looking at statistics anyone should know that there are many confounding factors that effect outcomes and performance and must be considered along with statistics.

[smiddy012]

Yea I was wrong on Asik, he can play. If his offense comes around even just a little he's a force. Which leads to another question. Why would CHI pay a soon to be 28 year old Gibson who is a mediocre starter at best, $8m+, yet pass on Asik for the same price?

Because without Taj Gibson we have to rely on Carlos Dumb**** Boozer, without Asik we have to rely on Noah. Simple as that.

[mightybosstone]

You guys need to relax a bit. Also all the people saying Jordan was there in 95 come on. A mid-season comeback not in basketball shape and rusty that half season and your trying to say the rockets would have won anyway. Its not even anti rockets to say that NO ONE was beating Jordan if he didn't retire did you people even watch back then? Stop taking everything as some personal slight against you and your team.

When you deliberately rip the Rockets' two titles in your post, you're going to get hammered by Rockets fans. What did you expect? Also, I don't buy the "Bulls would have definitely beat the Rockets" argument, because the Rockets never had a chance to face them in the Finals. I legitimately think the 95 Rockets would have beaten anybody that year, MJ's Bulls included.

If you look at that list you will find Detroit, Mavs, Lakers, Heat all acquired the majority of their team in free agency. Free agency is different nowadays and guys are approaching it differently which we have seen the past few years. Its not easy to hang on to your guys for life now.

But you're missing a huge point of this, which is that every one of those teams drafted players which were key cogs of those franchises. Without Kobe, there is no Pau. Without Dirk, there is no Chandler. Without Wade, there is no Lebron.

Also by your logic how is acquiring Harden much different than Melo other than he wasn't the star of his team before (I certainly think he can be just hadn't been proven).

I never said it was substantially different. However, their ages do make it fairly different situations. The Rockets got Harden at the very beginning of his prime, while the Knicks acquired Melo smack dab in the middle of his.

Why have Rockets fans become so confrontational and defensive.

Because Knicks' fans have been harassing us non-stop since Houston acquired Lin and most of the harassment has been so mind-numbingly stupid, that I've lost my patience with it.

This forum would be a much more fun place to have discussions without people getting so defensive and just face palming, insulting others, making condescending remarks, and maybe the worst the good old "if you think that you must be stupid" this is all opinion based stuff and people like to pretend that anything you say can be factually backed up.

Except that most things in sports CAN be backed up with facts. Not 100 percent, but there is evidence for practically any sports related argument you could have with someone. If you want to say "Lin sucks," then you should be able to back that up with facts. If I want to say "Melo sucks," than I can certainly provide the numbers to argue that, as well.

Even when looking at statistics anyone should know that there are many confounding factors that effect outcomes and performance and must be considered along with statistics.

Duh. No one is disputing that context is required when looking at any sports related statistic. If a guy posts a 35 PER, but did that playing five minutes in a blowout loss, then that guy probably isn't worthy of his freakish PER. It's common sense, dude.

[Linsukdeep]

Trade Lin for Kobe nuff said

[SLY WILLIAMS]

Just to set the record straight not all Knicks fans want Jeremy to do poorly. I know some seem to be against him but I like the kid and I wish him well. I think he will be a solid player. He is still young and I doubt he is 100% recovered from his knee surgery at this time. I would not be shocked to see him average around 15ppg-7apg-6rpg-2steals at some points in his career if he recovers 100% from his knee surgery. His assists will never be huge if playing with Harden because Harden has the ball in his hands a lot just like Kobe/MJ. I think J Lin is a solid rebounder as a pg. He is a much better shooter than he has shown so far. He shot much better last year and in college.

[Gram]

Just to set the record straight not all Knicks fans want Jeremy to do poorly. I know some seem to be against him but I like the kid and I wish him well. I think he will be a solid player. He is still young and I doubt he is 100% recovered from his knee surgery at this time. I would not be shocked to see him average around 15ppg-7apg-6rpg-2steals at some points in his career if he recovers 100% from his knee surgery. His assists will never be huge if playing with Harden because Harden has the ball in his hands a lot just like Kobe/MJ. I think J Lin is a solid rebounder as a pg. He is a much better shooter than he has shown so far. He shot much better last year and in college.

GRAM WILLIAMS appearance ladies and gentlemen.

[blahblahyoutoo]

Something is very wrong when to be Douglas gets more minutes than lin.

[Lakers4life08]

Toney Douglas>>>>>Lin

[heyman321]

Y'all racist.

[astrosmaniac]

Something is very wrong when to be Douglas gets more minutes than lin.

it's called foul trouble and douglas having the hot hand. douglas out played harden tonight, it's not that hard too see why he played a lot tonight