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  • Aldon Smith

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  • Von Miller

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    Give me both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibby23 View Post
    What do you base that on?
    I base that on the fact that he's a far superior run defender.





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    Quote Originally Posted by broncofangene View Post
    Von miller, Smith has a better dline and Willis which free up holes. Don't forget jj watt was in that draft as well. All three are exceptional pass rushers
    i was going to quote simply for the sig, i was hoping someone kept that quote. but i also agree with this post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibby23 View Post
    What do you base that on?
    Miller is a bit more complete, but I would say Aldon excels more at rushing the passer. But both are elite. Aldon's a bit raw yet, but getting to be a damn good all around player
    Quote Originally Posted by heimdog8 View Post
    I didn't want to throw this information out here. I was a 3 year varsity starter at QB in high school. I played quarterback in junior college as well. I was considering playing division 1 football as well but chose to pursue my career in business instead. However, currently I am helping train with Derek Carr from Fresno State get ready for his pro day and the draft. I am also working with Cody Kessler, the USC quarterback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homestarunner93 View Post
    I base that on the fact that he's a far superior run defender.
    You have stats on that? Aldon is pretty good against the run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homestarunner93 View Post
    I base that on the fact that he's a far superior run defender.
    Woah woah woah...thats based on scheme for him to be that way. Aldon's scheme is to set the edge forcing them to go up middle for Willis and Bowman...Miller is the better run defender, but not far superior.
    Quote Originally Posted by heimdog8 View Post
    I didn't want to throw this information out here. I was a 3 year varsity starter at QB in high school. I played quarterback in junior college as well. I was considering playing division 1 football as well but chose to pursue my career in business instead. However, currently I am helping train with Derek Carr from Fresno State get ready for his pro day and the draft. I am also working with Cody Kessler, the USC quarterback.

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    Denver D might be playing like a top 5 D At the MOMENT, but they haven't been good for nearly as long as SF. I believe Bronco D will hold up and continue rolling, but there is a chance they take a step back whereas I don't see that happening with SF

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColtsSpursTerps View Post
    Denver D might be playing like a top 5 D At the MOMENT, but they haven't been good for nearly as long as SF. I believe Bronco D will hold up and continue rolling, but there is a chance they take a step back whereas I don't see that happening with SF
    Top to bottom SF has a much better defense. Honestly, their team defense is ridiculous together. Everyone relies on each other. It's like poetry in motion to watch.
    Quote Originally Posted by heimdog8 View Post
    I didn't want to throw this information out here. I was a 3 year varsity starter at QB in high school. I played quarterback in junior college as well. I was considering playing division 1 football as well but chose to pursue my career in business instead. However, currently I am helping train with Derek Carr from Fresno State get ready for his pro day and the draft. I am also working with Cody Kessler, the USC quarterback.

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    they are both VERY good.

    I would take Von Miller personally, this coming from a 49ers fan.

    Aldon is a good kid, but he seems to be a bit immature and he got into trouble a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColtsSpursTerps View Post
    Denver D might be playing like a top 5 D At the MOMENT, but they haven't been good for nearly as long as SF. I believe Bronco D will hold up and continue rolling, but there is a chance they take a step back whereas I don't see that happening with SF
    Well, if we look specifically at the pass rush, the Broncos have 35 sacks, 13 by Von Miller.

    The Niners have 23, 15 by Aldon Smith. The SF Pass rush literally consists of 2 guys: Justin Smith and Aldon Smith. He is accounting for an insane 65% of the Niners Sacks this year.

    And before last year nobody thought the Niners D was elite. The biggest difference from our Good defense of 2 years ago to our Elite defense of last year and this year has been an actual pass rush.

    Basically, I don't think people realize what Aldon has done for this defense.
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    How unsurprising. Dude, give up trying to argue with valade. He cut you into little pieces, had you for breakfast, and shat you out.
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    Valade you have totally owned this thread. Well done
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    Quote Originally Posted by neovenator250 View Post
    Has to be Von Miller, I imagine. Yes, Smith has all those sacks, but he's a pass rush specialist with a bunch of elite defenders around him. Miller is a much more complete player who does everything for his team.
    You might have a different outlook after this sunday

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    Both are great players, SF fans are happy to have Aldon and Denver fans are happy with Miller. In that case it doesnt really matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Well, if we look specifically at the pass rush, the Broncos have 35 sacks, 13 by Von Miller.

    The Niners have 23, 15 by Aldon Smith. The SF Pass rush literally consists of 2 guys: Justin Smith and Aldon Smith. He is accounting for an insane 65% of the Niners Sacks this year.

    And before last year nobody thought the Niners D was elite. The biggest difference from our Good defense of 2 years ago to our Elite defense of last year and this year has been an actual pass rush.

    Basically, I don't think people realize what Aldon has done for this defense.
    This. The combination of Aldon and Justin Smith as well as the emergence of Bowman has taken this team to a new height defensively. Aldon is responsible for the majority of the team's sacks this year and puts a ton of pressure on opposing OLs, he gets double teamed all of the time; there are usually 3-4 blockers working against Justin Smith and Aldon Smith in pass protection while Ray Mac and Brooks get single blockers. For example, on one of the sacks last night, the Center, LG, and LT all shifted to block Justin Smith and Aldon Smith, both players just bull rushed their way through and got the sack in about 2.5 seconds.

    Aldon Smith has been a tremendous difference maker for the 49ers and his run defense is almost as good as his pass rush abilities. Only reason why he doesn't have as many tackles as Miller or Watt is because teams just don't run the ball much on the 49ers, and when they do, it's usually up the middle or to the right away from the Smith brothers.

    Stat lines:

    Aldon Smith: 43 tackles, 15 sacks, 3 FF

    Von Miller: 45 tackles, 13 sacks, 4 FF

    You can't go wrong with either but I would rather have Aldon Smith because he is a better pass rusher and also a great run defender. I don't care very much about his pass coverage though; on 3rd downs I want his hand in the dirt, ready to destroy OL men and quarterbacks, not dropping back into coverage.

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    Von- 663 total plays. 254 in run, 317 in pass rush, 92 in pass coverage

    Aldon- 618 total plays. 250 run, 313 pass rush, 55 in pass coverage.

    Aldon-19 QB hurries, 32 "stops" (in PFF's words an "offensive failure that includes sacks")

    Von- 37 QB hurries, 37 "stops."

    And if you don't like PFF's value of "stops." Advanced NFL stats..

    Aldon- 13 TFL

    Von- 23 TFL

    Pretty decently even across the boards..except the fact that Von drops back into coverage much more often.


    The one thing though that should be noted (and if it has already I apologize)...Von is a 3-4 OLB playing a 4-3 OLB. What if Von played his natural 3-4 OLB at all times?? Just something to think about.

    I'm picking Von. Aldon is an excellent pass rusher but Von is an excellent football player. And even though Aldon has the edge over von in sacks, I'm not convinced he's the better pass rusher.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVE KID View Post
    Von- 663 total plays. 254 in run, 317 in pass rush, 92 in pass coverage

    Aldon- 618 total plays. 250 run, 313 pass rush, 55 in pass coverage.

    Aldon-19 QB hurries, 32 "stops" (in PFF's words an "offensive failure that includes sacks")

    Von- 37 QB hurries, 37 "stops."

    And if you don't like PFF's value of "stops." Advanced NFL stats..

    Aldon- 13 TFL

    Von- 23 TFL

    Pretty decently even across the boards..except the fact that Von drops back into coverage much more often.


    The one thing though that should be noted (and if it has already I apologize)...Von is a 3-4 OLB playing a 4-3 OLB. What if Von played his natural 3-4 OLB at all times?? Just something to think about.

    I'm picking Von. Aldon is an excellent pass rusher but Von is an excellent football player. And even though Aldon has the edge over von in sacks, I'm not convinced he's the better pass rusher.
    woah i thought that stat would be a lot closer than it is...

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