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View Poll Results: Should there be a MLB salary cap?

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    one of the things I don't like about the NFL is how easy it is to cut players.
    I would like to see some type of restricted free agency or giving teams a better chance at resigning their own free agents. I like it when players can play for one team. guys like Chipper Jones, who played his entire career with Atlanta. I wish there were more situations like that.
    if you gave teams a better chance at resigning their own free agents, they could have a better chance at competing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    one of the things I don't like about the NFL is how easy it is to cut players.
    I would like to see some type of restricted free agency or giving teams a better chance at resigning their own free agents. I like it when players can play for one team. guys like Chipper Jones, who played his entire career with Atlanta. I wish there were more situations like that.
    if you gave teams a better chance at resigning their own free agents, they could have a better chance at competing.
    One thing I have always wanted to see is a Franchise or Transition Tag that pays a player a guaranteed 1 year contract of the top-10 or 15 players in MLB at their respective position. The player can choose to sign an extension, sign the one year tender, or sign with someone else with which the original team has 7 days to match. If they do, the player stays with the original team. If the original team doesn't match, then the two teams work on a compensation package of players or prospects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    one of the things I don't like about the NFL is how easy it is to cut players.
    I would like to see some type of restricted free agency or giving teams a better chance at resigning their own free agents. I like it when players can play for one team. guys like Chipper Jones, who played his entire career with Atlanta. I wish there were more situations like that.
    if you gave teams a better chance at resigning their own free agents, they could have a better chance at competing.
    Joey Votto. Ryan Braun. Joe Mauer. Andrew McCutchen. Troy Tulowitzi. Evan Longoria. Justin Upton. Felix Hernandez. I'm sure I could keep going, but you get the point. All mid-small market teams, all managed to ink their stars to longterm deals before free agency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    I consider it a problem when you can almost make it a lock that the Yankees will make the post season no matter what. what are the numbers, 17 of the last 18 years? and what happened after the year they didn't make the playoffs? they went out and threw so much money to bring in free agents. IMO that is ridiculous.
    fwiw, their payroll went down in 2009

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    Yes, but not so strict that it limits teams with money from spending. Maybe something like a 150-175 MM dollar cap.
    Last edited by MetsFanatic19; 11-19-2012 at 09:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2009mvp View Post
    Joey Votto. Ryan Braun. Joe Mauer. Andrew McCutchen. Troy Tulowitzi. Evan Longoria. Justin Upton. Felix Hernandez. I'm sure I could keep going, but you get the point. All mid-small market teams, all managed to ink their stars to longterm deals before free agency.
    I'm not really sure what you're getting at.
    I'm sure there are always going to be players willing to sign with their previous team for whatever reason, whether they take a home town discount or they don't want to move. but there are also many players leaving to join new teams, and before players become free agents many teams trading soon to be free agent players. most of the time free agents sign with a new team based on money rather than specifically where they want to play. this is also something that bothers me. how free agents most of the time (not always) seem to sign with the team that is willing to give them the most money, as if it's all about the money.


    according to baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots these are the Yankees payroll numbers since 2000.

    2012: $209,792,900
    2011: $207,047,964
    2010: $213,359,389
    2009: $201,449,189
    2008: $209,081,577
    2007: $189,639,045
    2006: $194,663,079
    2005: $208,306,817
    2004: $184,193,950
    2003: $152,749,814
    2002: $125,928,583
    2001: $112,287,143
    2000: $107,588,459

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    What does posting the Yankees payroll accomplish?


    Here are the Rays payroll amounts since 2000


    2012: $ 63,627,200
    2011: $ 42,171,308
    2010: $ 72,847,133
    2009: $ 63,313,034
    2008: $ 43,745,597
    2007: $ 24,123,500
    2006: $ 35,417,967
    2005: $ 29,679,067
    2004: $ 29,556,667
    2003: $ 19,630,000
    2002: $ 34,380,000
    2001: $ 56,980,000
    2000: $ 64,400,000

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    It's ridiculous to think the MLB has more parity than the NFL. Unless you're completely biased towards MLB, any objective person could see how quickly and how often the competitive balance changes in football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    What does posting the Yankees payroll accomplish?


    Here are the Rays payroll amounts since 2000


    2012: $ 63,627,200
    2011: $ 42,171,308
    2010: $ 72,847,133
    2009: $ 63,313,034
    2008: $ 43,745,597
    2007: $ 24,123,500
    2006: $ 35,417,967
    2005: $ 29,679,067
    2004: $ 29,556,667
    2003: $ 19,630,000
    2002: $ 34,380,000
    2001: $ 56,980,000
    2000: $ 64,400,000

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    Yes but we should be able to amnesty contracts ray: Also have a fantasy draft of players

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    look at how much the Yankees payroll has increased from 2000 to 2012. over 100 million dollars. 2012 payroll over 200 million dollars.

    if a high payroll like this doesn't always equal success, fine then, lets see what teams like the Yankees can do with a salary cap of something like $150 million. that's still a high number too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pittz View Post
    It's ridiculous to think the MLB has more parity than the NFL. Unless you're completely biased towards MLB, any objective person could see how quickly and how often the competitive balance changes in football.
    And yet, the best teams are still, consistently the best teams, and the worst teams are still, consistently the worst teams.


    Over the last decade:

    Five best winning percentages
    Colts - .719
    Patriots - .700
    Eagles - .648
    Steelers - .648
    Packers - .594

    The five worst winning percentages
    Lions - .263
    Browns - .356
    Texans - .383
    Cardinals - .388
    Raiders - .388


    Now for the MLB
    2000-2010

    Five best winning percentages:
    Yankees - .596
    Red Sox - .566
    Cardinals - .561
    Braves - .552
    Angels - .549

    Five worst winning percentages:
    Royals - .415
    Pirates - .415
    Orioles - .429
    Expos - .438
    Rays - .444

    This isn't significantly closer or anything, is it.


    Not to mention, we have more turnover in champions as well.

    The NFL does not have more parity. And that's mainly because the of the dynamic of the sports.

    A salary cap will not increase parity, not in any way. All it does is harm small market teams, and help keep the owners of the large market teams in a better position to negotiate with players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    look at how much the Yankees payroll has increased from 2000 to 2012. over 100 million dollars. 2012 payroll over 200 million dollars.

    if a high payroll like this doesn't always equal success, fine then, lets see what teams like the Yankees can do with a salary cap of something like $150 million. that's still a high number too.
    Since it hasn't helped the Mets, the Cubs, or the Dodgers for the last decade.

    Yeah, it doesn't equal success.

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    Wait, so you argue that the MLB has more parity... And then concede the NFL has more? Oh, okay. I'm not saying a salary cap would or wouldn't improve parity in the MLB. I'm just saying the NFL has more parity, because it's a fact.

    Regardless, winning percentage is a terrible measurement for proving anything about parity between the sports when it's 162 games vs. 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittz View Post
    it's ridiculous to think the mlb has more parity than the nfl. Unless you're completely biased towards mlb, any objective person could see how quickly and how often the competitive balance changes in football.
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