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Once again Metamucil comes in to enlighten us. I would be trolling every other teams forums as well if I rooted for that shizz hole team they call golden state. Any team that tanks in the manner they did is a disgrace to the entire entity of basketball. But I do congratulate you on continuing to be a fan for the past what 50-60 years. I know you are still living off the high of the 70's where golden state actual was something and not just a whipping boy for teams to get a hard practice against.
Keep bringing your insight and profound information we as jazz fans sure do enjoy it. Oh and don't forget to take a nap around noon I noticed you get a bit crabby when you haven't got your cat nap in before dinner.
San Antone definitely runs set plays with dozens of variations on each play. Their offense is so close to the "machine" that Utah ran under sloan before DWill started to improvise. It is easy to see that this team has very little offensive teamwork. Just take a look at the entry pass. Sloan was so key on spacing and that entry pass had to take place from the elbow extended every single time like clock work. Take a look at the cross screens. Watch how often there is absolutely no contact on the cross screens and think back to Horny or Stock setting hard picks that they refused to release and consider how far out Al has to go these days to get the ball. Take a look at the hard cuts (or lack thereof). Remember how the ball used to go into Karl and then you would see two hard cuts one from each side?
In the next Jazz game watch the ball go into Al, see the entry passer drag his man to the paint and then beyond, and then watch nothing move. Would Poppovich accept that at SA?
During a game in 1982, Frank Layden, then head coach of the Utah Jazz, had seen enough of his team's poor performance and wanted an early exit. Layden verbally abused Strom so he could get ejected from the game. Strom knew what he was trying to do, and when Layden asked why he didn't eject him, Strom replied, "I know what you're trying to do, Frank, but if I've got to stay out here and watch this $#!^, so do you".
I agree here. The offense does not look great. Problem with going to the post with Al is that everyone else just spaces and no one cuts but thats cuz they know al wont find them.
What al can do is kick out to a three point shooter and cause the defensive rotation off the double team to close and if we swing the ball. Then hayward dives from the weak side and we have the whole offense in motion. then you can improvise off that movement.
I personally also want to run the pick and roll with multiple combinations of guys. I would like to see us run the pick and roll with favors but run it closer to the basket so that when favors rolls he is right in the paint where he can score.
We are really in a quandry here with paul and Al. tough choices need to be made![]()
Hi There
JAZZ / UTES / LIONS / REDWINGS / TIGERS / ALL-BLACKS
Hey guys, it's been a while. I've been totally engrossed in watching my Tide play football, but I've been keeping tabs on my Jazz as well. This opening schedule has been brutal with 9 of 15 on the road so far. 7-7 isn't ideal, but it isn't the end of the road.
What it has shown me is that we're not a great team. We could be good, but we're not going to contend with this roster. There's just too much of a log jam. And the chances of us keeping Al AND Millsap are between slim and none. We're not going to pay both of them what they want.
Changes will come sooner rather than later if we stay on this path of an average team. It makes no sense to lose Al or Millsap for nothing.
What do you guys think causes the disparity between home games and road games?
It's our most apparent weakness, and it has been for several years now. I'm curious as to what everyone thinks causes that and how it can be fixed.
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I think part of it is that we have such a huge advantage being used to the thin air. Also, most teams are just better at home because you are more comfortable.
I hadn't thought of Houston as a trade partner - what player(s) are you thinking about for big Al?
I'm in LA and the "Trade Gasol" chants are loud here. I wouldn't like a Milsap for Gasol swap - we have plenty of bigs (as we all know), and trading a big for another big doesn't seem that logical to me - although Gasol would bring a different set of skills. But what about getting a third team involved? Milsap to Lakers (along with fillers), Gasol to third team, and young PG, or SF, or high draft pick to Utah?
Houston, LA, Utah 3 team trade: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bwvr6qo
Houston gets Gasol
Lakers get Millsap, Cook, Aldrich, and Tinsley
Jazz get Douglas, White, Jones, Montiejunas and draft considerations from the Rockets and Lakers
This couldn't be done until December 15th because of Eric Gordon's extension but...
Jazz get: Eric Gordon, Jason Smith
Hornets get: Gasol
Lakers get: Millsap, Bell, Watson, Xavier Henry
Jazz salaries next year would be:
Gordon, Smith, Burks, Hayward, Favors, Kanter, Marvin, Evans and Murphy
$42,900,632
Pay Carroll $3mil, MoWill $8mil, Tins $1.5mil and Jefferson $14mil
$69,400,632 + our two first round draft picks
Mo, Tins
Gordon, Burks, Murphy
Marvin, Hayward, Carroll
Favors, Smith, Evans
Al, Kanter
13 man roster + 2 first rounders
Actually, after doing the numbers I think this would be way too big a risk. We probably couldn't afford to bring big Al back on a long term deal if we brought in Gordon. We could maybe afford it if we traded Al instead of Paul but is Favors, Kanter and Paul a good enough front court? If Gordon was healthy this could be a good deal but he's only played 9 games in two years.
Last edited by jazzman86; 12-03-2012 at 04:01 PM.
10-6
^December 26th can't come soon enough.. Warriors vs Jazz in Utah for our first meeting of the season.
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