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    Do you think these stats are valuable and why or why not?

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    Do you think these stats are valuable and why or why not?

    I do except the last one, honestly how are they not valuable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwertys View Post
    I do except the last one, honestly how are they not valuable
    RBI tell you nothing about a batter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sexicano31 View Post
    RBI tell you nothing about a batter.
    What a ridiculous statement ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudvayne387 View Post
    What a ridiculous statement ...
    They honestly don't..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudvayne387 View Post
    What a ridiculous statement ...
    They dont. They dont tell you how many people they had on in front of him or the % of runners he drove in. Tell you nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudvayne387 View Post
    What a ridiculous statement ...
    How do they? They are dependent on your teammates. If Cabby was a Mariner he would probably have around 100 RBI rather than 140 or whatever, cause theres no one to get on in front of him
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudvayne387 View Post
    What a ridiculous statement ...
    Alfonso Soriano had more RBI than Buster Posey this season, but Posey batted .340 w/ RISP and Soriano batted .283. It tells you nothing.
    Last edited by SFrush90; 11-16-2012 at 08:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFrush90 View Post
    Alfonso Soriano had more RBI than Buster Posey this season, but Posey batted .340 w/ RISP and Soriano batted .283. It tells you nothing.
    Bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFrush90 View Post
    Alfonso Soriano had more RBI than Buster Posey this season, but Posey batted .340 w/ RISP and Soriano batted .283. It tells you nothing.
    Keep drinking the kool aid guys ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudvayne387 View Post
    What a ridiculous statement ...
    I had this same argument with an RBI advocate recently.

    If a player gets 60 RBI's... good season or bad? He was like "Well, that's not very high". Okay, so it's a #8 hitter on a bad team and he only plays in 120 games... does it still look bad? He says no, that's pretty decent. I asked him if it's the #3 hitter on a playoff team where the guy plays 150 games, he said 60 is not very good.

    Counting stats don't mean a lot unless they're extraordinarily high, and even in those scenario's you can find a stat more well suited to quantify their contributions. It is absolutely useless.

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    They certainly matter. Though, I'm with some other posters in the forum, that few statistics, such as BA and ERA(Tellingly, those are both relational statistics that have context built in), have particular value outside of their relation to other team and personal statistics.

    Raw numbers need context. Saves are relatively meaningless unless opportunities and ERA are taken into consideration.

    Likewise, anyone hitting behind three guys with OBS over .400 is going to have a lot of RBI's...even if he hits .200.
    Last edited by psuedo; 11-18-2012 at 12:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudvayne387 View Post
    What a ridiculous statement ...
    its true. if people dont get on in front of you, you woint get RBIs. by the opposite notion, if the bases are loaded every time you come up, you will get more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sexicano31 View Post
    RBI tell you nothing about a batter.
    yeah, who needs to drive in runs? I wish the official scorers in the world series got that memo that driving in runners on base didn't matter. tigers might have had a chance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FortDetroit View Post
    yeah, who needs to drive in runs? I wish the official scorers in the world series got that memo that driving in runners on base didn't matter. tigers might have had a chance!
    They certainly don't you tell who's a better hitter and who is better at driving in runs. It's just a worthless counting stat that tells you nothing, which sexicano said. Nobody said driving in runs don't matter.

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