Just think what would be now had we...

[J!E!T!S! JETS!]

Had we gone back and hired Herman Edwards. I have a lot of respect for the guy. He knows how to coach a football team. He has excellent ethics. He knows how to handle men who are reckless with their comments on their on teammates. Being critical is one thing but to bash your own teammates is not considered a team anymore. This team cannot pull together. We cannot blame it entirely on the coaches. Although they deserve a large chunk of it because of their lack of disciplinary actions and holding players accountable for their performance or lack thereof and their comments. Its just not a smart football team. The jibbering with other teams players and underhanded threats then not being able to back any of it up is just complete mockery of their bravado. Who are these clowns? Rex likes to think he owns up to his mistakes and decisions, but he has no control of the team. The veterans in this team are not good mentors. It feels like everyone on the team is playing for their own stat padding. For their own moral satisfaction. Herman wouldn't allow that. Herm would have taken control over these situations of anonymous people bashing teammates and lay down the Herm law. The man can speak. He can motivate. He can coach a game. He can coach men. I'm really just hoping to get a coach the likes of Herm. We need a Man to lead the Men. Not someone who cries more times in a season than my little sister when she gets her toys taken away.

[scopepts]

Had we not fired Herman Edwards? Because we did hire him lol

[J!E!T!S! JETS!]

Yeah that's what I meant. Lol. Had we not fired him.

[jetsforever]

Herm was ok. Nothing worth writing home about. He was worse than Rex in my eyes. And lets remember that he wanted to leave the Jets. Dick Vermil was retiring and wanted Herm to take his place in KC. When the time came, he went there. We got Leon Washington for him. Had Leon not gotten hurt, it would probably have been my favorite trade ever.

Having said that, welcome to the forum!

[John X Doe]

Where are the imaginative posts? So many what-if scenarios. What if there was a parallel universe....blah blah blah - let's go back in time and not deal with reality. Broadway Joe, share a j with all of us.

[King P]

Too bad when it came to fundamentals and X's & O's, he was a terrible coach.

One of the worst I've ever seen when it comes to clock management.

[kpjets]

Too bad when it came to fundamentals and X's & O's, he was a terrible coach.

One of the worst I've ever seen when it comes to clock management.

this

[Claymation]

Yeah that's what I meant. Lol. Had we not fired him.

He wasn't fired, he was technically traded. But in reality he left.

[VillaMaravilla]

If you want talk about a coach we shouldnt have fired then lets talk abiut Mangini

[NYR_NYJ]

He wasn't fired, he was technically traded. But in reality he left.

This.
he was a decent coach at best.

[jetsfansince'67]

Arrgghh! This type of thinking is in line with a quote from the 1970's and '80's CBS "color analyst," Tom Brookshier - who was teamed with Pat Summerall (both often hammered before, during, and after the telecast).

Brookshier was fond of saying, "If he hadn't been tackled, he would have gone all the way."

"If only......whatever" carries no weight, or interest for me.

I liked Herm, but he inherited a team built by Bill Parcels, and whittled it down to 4-12. He was the one that wanted out, and because of the probable collusion with Carl Peterson (Chief's GM and buddy of Herm), we were awarded a 4th round pick in 2006, and that translated into Leon Washington - who was one of my favorite Jets. He was traded in 2010 to Seattle for a 5th round draft pick, coming off a compound fracture of the fibula in week 7, 2009, against the Raiders.

In Leon's 3 plus (played 6 games in 2009) years as a Jet he managed to set 3 Jets Franchise Records: 1) most career KO returns for TD with 4; 2) most KO return TDs in a single season - 3; and #3) most all-purpose yards in a single season in 2008 - 2,307 yards - which was also #1 in the NFL in '08. He has been underutilized as a RB, but is still one of the best return specialists in the NFL as he's added 3 more KO TDs (2 in one game) for a total of 7. In the history of the NFL, only Josh Cribbs has more KO return TDs with 8, but Leon is 5th in NFL history with a TD return percentage of 4.02%. The great Gale Sayers is the leader with a TD% of 6.59% (Cribbs has a 2.26%, and Devin Hester has a 3.42%)

GO JETS!!!

GO JETS!!!

[Strange famous]

Herm always struck me as a really decent man who was a bit out of his depth.

We have a top 10 coach. If he had the right OC and he just toughens up a bit, we'd be one of the best coached teams in the league.

The issue is we've drafted poorly for a few years and we have a bottom 5 starting QB.

[Mr. Magoo]

Herm always struck me as a really decent man who was a bit out of his depth.

We have a top 10 coach. If he had the right OC and he just toughens up a bit, we'd be one of the best coached teams in the league.

The issue is we've drafted poorly for a few years and we have a bottom 5 starting QB.

Matt Cassell is a bottom 5 QB in the NFL, and he looked like a pro bowler in NE. Sanchez has been far from good this year, but the reality is that he's getting blamed for things that are out of his control.

He has been inaccurate more than he should be, but let's just look at last Sunday...

He was 9-22, but there were 3 dropped balls on well thrown short passes in the open field. Right there is the difference between 41% and 55%, and who knows how many yards those passes could have netted, since the receivers had plenty of room in front of them.

Then Sparano calls 3 quick swing passes behind the line of scrimmage for Tebow that were easy completions. I haven't seen that quick pass called for Sanchez all year. Those should have been Sanchez's completions in that game. Now he's 15-25. That's a 60% completion rate.

Don't get me wrong here. I'm absolutely not suggesting that Sanchez is blameless, but he's not being put in a position to succeed.

[GreenLantern]

Matt Cassell is a bottom 5 QB in the NFL, and he looked like a pro bowler in NE. Sanchez has been far from good this year, but the reality is that he's getting blamed for things that are out of his control.

He has been inaccurate more than he should be, but let's just look at last Sunday...

He was 9-22, but there were 3 dropped balls on well thrown short passes in the open field. Right there is the difference between 41% and 55%, and who knows how many yards those passes could have netted, since the receivers had plenty of room in front of them.Then Sparano calls 3 quick swing passes behind the line of scrimmage for Tebow that were easy completions. I haven't seen that quick pass called for Sanchez all year. Those should have been Sanchez's completions in that game. Now he's 15-25. That's a 60% completion rate.

Don't get me wrong here. I'm absolutely not suggesting that Sanchez is blameless, but he's not being put in a position to succeed.

please stop it!!!!!!! Is Sanchez the only QB in the NFL that is plagued by dropped balls?
What would Brees completion % be if Graham doesnt drop 9 passes already this year.

Sanchez has NEVER even broken 57% completion in 4 years.. I think its safe to say its not because of dropped passes.

Could you imagine if you used that excuse for every other NFL QB in the NFL.

Sanchez completion % is terrible because 26% of all his passes are overthrown or underthrown.

Lets call it like it is

[nyyfan4life]

We shouldn't be going back. We should be moving forward. Chip Kelly to the Jets 2013 or bust. Enough said.