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    Quote Originally Posted by b@llhog24 View Post
    He wasn't even the best player on that team.
    lmao.. What?? Then who was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronz View Post
    Proof..... of any of this?
    You want advanced stats?

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    Could of been the guy who averaged 20 and close to 12 boards a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxplayerxx23 View Post
    Could of been the guy who averaged 20 and close to 12 boards a game.
    oo the guy that become irrelevant after he stopped playing with dwill
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmoney85 View Post
    oo the guy that become irrelevant after he stopped playing with dwill
    Yeah the guy didnt average 17.5 and 9.6 his first year in chicago, he isn't 30 now, Boozer was a product of Deron, Sorry bud Deron wasnt the best player on the team that year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxplayerxx23 View Post
    Yeah the guy didnt average 17.5 and 9.6 his first year in chicago, he isn't 30 now, Boozer was a product of Deron, Sorry bud Deron wasnt the best player on the team that year.

    21 ppg - 17.5ppg is a huge drop off and his FG percentage dropped significantly

    deron made boozer good... dont get it twisted.
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    You used the word irrelevant He was better then Deron that year. Look at the numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxplayerxx23 View Post
    You used the word irrelevant He was better then Deron that year. Look at the numbers.
    and like I said... deron williams made boozer
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    Wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmoney85 View Post
    and like I said... deron williams made boozer
    Not nearly as much as sloan made Deron. Look at how he has done on the Nets compared to utah. Did williams make boozer better? Yes, but he didn't make boozer into what he was like your claiming. Boozer played better than Williams in the two series that they won that year. Williams making the WCF is great, but it doesn't make him individually better than paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickdymez View Post
    You want advanced stats?
    At this point, you citing anything other than vague opinions would be welcomed. So lets not move too quickly now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickdymez View Post
    lmao.. What?? Then who was?
    LMFAO probably the guy the coaches decided was the teams All-Star, probably the guy who easily the more productive player. Probably the guy who was both higher on the MVP rankings.. yea that guy. Now what evidence do YOU have?

    Because by all objective measures, Deron in his 2nd year was not better than Boozer at his peak. This is why you shouldn't judge players by what you remember because you get careers mixed up. You saw Deron outplay Boozer for the majority of their careers and naturally assumed its always been that way. Time to expand your way of thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mngopher35 View Post
    Not nearly as much as sloan made Deron. Look at how he has done on the Nets compared to utah. Did williams make boozer better? Yes, but he didn't make boozer into what he was like your claiming. Boozer played better than Williams in the two series that they won that year. Williams making the WCF is great, but it doesn't make him individually better than paul.
    number 1... I never said he was better than paul

    number 2... you're comparing dwill's production with avery to sloan when this is the 1st decent team he's played on since the trade
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    Quote Originally Posted by b@llhog24 View Post
    So Mario Chalmers was a top 2 pg last season then?
    So Mario Chalmers was the leader of the Heat .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmoney85 View Post
    number 1... I never said he was better than paul

    number 2... you're comparing dwill's production with avery to sloan when this is the 1st decent team he's played on since the trade
    You were comparing boozer under sloan to a defensive minded thibs and a team with less spacing more focused on defense. I don't truly believe sloan is the only thing that made williams good but according to you a slight decrease from utah to chicago was all because of Dwill for boozer so i thought id use the same logic. Boozer was the better player on Utah the year they made wcf, and played an 8 seed in the second round. This is a thread about Paul needing to make the WCF and you brought up Williams making it. Not sure what your point was then?

    Edit: When I say slight decrease I mean from one year to the next (last year on utah to first on bulls). I know that boozer is declining now.
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