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View Poll Results: Now in hindsight -- Who won the Carmelo Anthony trade? Nuggets or Knicks

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  • Denver Nuggets

    99 30.94%
  • New York Knicks

    145 45.31%
  • Even Trade Both Teams

    76 23.75%
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    So NY has to win, but DEN gets a pass because they play in the West?

    Again its not really about W/L record, DEN was better after the trade for a short while, but it was also largely in part because Billups being traded opened the door for Lawson who made them a better team.

    Fact is every player DEN got from NY has been injury prone and have not performed up to expectations. So I don't see how anyone can say DEN won.

    NY went from a .500 team to a top 4 team in the EAST now, DEN went from a perennial 50+ win team to an above average team.
    see, now you are on to something. its not about the moving parts, its what the trade gave both sides, and allowed both sides to do next.

    If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knicksfan42 View Post
    Not burying my head in anything. When he was on the Knicks I said he was at best and average defender.

    "Top 3 in steals"

    Well I guess getting 2.5 SPG means that you stay in front of your man, make your rotations, go over/ under screens properly, play good help d, put a hand up to contest shots, trap well, etc. Oh wait you can average 2.5 SPG and just do something like play the passing lanes well and have good hands, but can still be horrible at everything else.

    Lin has good hands. A tiny facet of the defense.


    "defensive rating"

    I guess in the fantasy world in which Carlos Boozer is as good of a defender as KG, and is a better defender than TD and Tyson Chandler Lin is a great defender.


    As for defensive win shares, I would appreciate a link.
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._advanced.html

    29th overall

    As for PG

    Jennings, Holiday, and Curry are ahead of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander_37 View Post
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._advanced.html

    29th overall

    As for PG

    Jennings, Holiday, and Curry are ahead of him.
    He's actually tied for 2nd amongst PG's. Lin, Curry, Hill, and Holliday are all at .4
    Last edited by KnickaBocka.44; 11-16-2012 at 03:36 PM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guppyfighter View Post


    The division is going to be ran by the Sixers and Raptors in three years. Book it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnickaBocka.44 View Post
    He's 5th. George Hill is a PG too
    Ehh he is more of a combo guard but I guess you could count it. Regardless.

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    well, considering we now have felton on our roster, mozzy and wil haven't been as good in denver as they were in NY, and gallo isnt of super star caliber, i'd say NY won
    This is just the beginning. Let's keep it up. History is bound to repeat itself. Let's hope that this time it's for the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bklyn24 View Post
    no way will none of them never not win no title..and i mean never!
    LMFAO my point exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander_37 View Post
    Ehh he is more of a combo guard but I guess you could count it. Regardless.
    Yeah, he starts at PG though. Not sure if you noticed my edit, but Lin is actually tied for 2nd with all of the others aside from Jennings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guppyfighter View Post


    The division is going to be ran by the Sixers and Raptors in three years. Book it.

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    I was assuming they ranked it by smaller increments.

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    It's just in alphabetical order

    Quote Originally Posted by Guppyfighter View Post


    The division is going to be ran by the Sixers and Raptors in three years. Book it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    why does that matter?

    I think the quality of the players mattering in a trade is pretty self explanatory. And the thread title says in hindsight.

    They got rid of a star player who couldn't win for them
    The team couldn't win.

    and got back depth
    Mozgov, Chandler, don't see the depth in hindsight.

    , flexibility
    Nope, as of right now, they are over the cap. 67 million on the payroll this year. 72 million for next year.


    draft picks
    True, I forgot which ones, but they did get draft picks.

    , and typically when a team sends away a so called "franchise" player, they eat ****. Denver was still a very good team, with more options going forward.

    Denver currently has no cap flexibility. That's the team: http://hoopshype.com/salaries/denver.htm



    In the end the name of the game is winning a championship. By acquiring a superstar the Knicks have positioned themselves better to do just that. We weren't going anywhere with Gallo, Chandler, Mozgov and Denver isn't going anywhere with them either.



    As it currently stands the Knicks have shot at a championship, the Nuggets have no such thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander_37 View Post
    I was assuming they ranked it by smaller increments.
    you're trying so hard, it's cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanksbucs View Post
    you're trying so hard, it's cute.
    What? That helps my argument lol... I thought he was ranked lower than he is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santana4Prez'08 View Post
    well, considering we now have felton on our roster, mozzy and wil haven't been as good in denver as they were in NY, and gallo isnt of super star caliber, i'd say NY won
    Pretty much this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexander_37 View Post
    What? That helps my argument lol... I thought he was ranked lower than he is...
    I'm just applauding your effort through out the thread.

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    The Nugs won it no matter how you look at it for the simple fact that they got so much for a player NY could have simply signed in the off-season.

    New York would have been deeper sooner and could have potentially put together an enticing enough package for Chris Paul.

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