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    If Not Ireland, Then Who?

    For those of you who wants us to fire Ireland after the season, who would you like to see us replace him with? Don't just say "someone in the Packers, Patriots, Giants Ravens or Saints" front office. Give us a name. Lets remember that if we fire Ireland then there's a chance Philbin will also be fired since new GM's like to bring in their own guys. Let's also remember that the Packers are off limits since Philbin is too loyal to break their " Don't poach any of our coaches or FO people if you decide to go your own way" rule.

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    Here's why I think we should keep Jeff Ireland for one more year: The guy has been in charge for only two years. GM's need at least three years to turn a team around. If you're wondering why I'm not holding Ireland responsible of all the moves that we made from 2008-2010, that's because because of Bill Parcells. When he was here no one gave Ireland credit for anything(including me). I gave Parcells credit for everything that when from 2008 to 2010(Proof: http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/sho...3&postcount=18 ). So it would be wrong for me to blame Ireland for the things that went on during those years(like most people in the media and fans) just because Parcells decided to retire. I'm sure Ireland had a hand in the decision making but Parcells had the final say. That's the way I saw it in when Parcells was here and that's the way I see it now. It would be stupid to say "Parcells drafted Langford, Long, Jones, Hartline while Ireland drafted White, Henne and Merling". That doesn't make any sense since none of us was in those meeting rooms. Its easier to just hold Parcells accountable for those moves since he the man in charge.

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    I have asked in many different ways this very same question and everytime get nothing... Besides Madden/Fantasy type things

    I am pro ireland, but I also recognize his mistakes as well... But it all comes down to the coaches wishes.

    T.Spa wanted big uglies for draft picks so that is what we got, now Philbin is purging the roster from the players he doesn't like (i.e. Vontae, BMARSH and so on) to players that he wants on the team, he builds the roster to what he is asked for

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    Something that my dad brought up that kinda peaked my curiosity is, say Ireland finishes his contract, and he decides to go somewhere else or what not... DO you guys not see Philbin as a GM for this team down the road?

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    As long as the new gm doesn't draft odricks in the first mixed in with misis in the 2nd he would do a better job. Ireland wasn't shiat before he got here. Let him go back to being shiat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryang View Post
    As long as the new gm doesn't draft odricks in the first mixed in with misis in the 2nd he would do a better job. Ireland wasn't shiat before he got here. Let him go back to being shiat.
    No offense to you ryang (but it was you who wrote this) this mentality is a big big reason as to why the Dolphins are well the Dolphins

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildPhins10 View Post
    Something that my dad brought up that kinda peaked my curiosity is, say Ireland finishes his contract, and he decides to go somewhere else or what not... DO you guys not see Philbin as a GM for this team down the road?
    I wouldn't be comfortable having Philbin as our HC and GM. That's too much work.
    Quote Originally Posted by ryang View Post
    As long as the new gm doesn't draft odricks in the first mixed in with misis in the 2nd he would do a better job. Ireland wasn't shiat before he got here. Let him go back to being shiat.
    Thanks for your contribution to the thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by WildPhins10 View Post
    I have asked in many different ways this very same question and everytime get nothing... Besides Madden/Fantasy type things

    I am pro ireland, but I also recognize his mistakes as well... But it all comes down to the coaches wishes.

    T.Spa wanted big uglies for draft picks so that is what we got, now Philbin is purging the roster from the players he doesn't like (i.e. Vontae, BMARSH and so on) to players that he wants on the team, he builds the roster to what he is asked for
    That's why I made this thread. Most people won't even give me name. They'll just say "anyone besides Ireland". Hello Randy Mueller!
    Last edited by godolphins; 11-16-2012 at 11:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godolphins View Post
    I wouldn't be comfortable having Philbin as our HC and GM. That's too much work.


    Thanks for your contribution to the thread.

    That's why I made this thread. Most people won't even give me name. They'll just say "anyone besides Ireland". Hello Randy Mueller!
    No I meant that Philbin would step down from the HC job and take the GM job

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildPhins10 View Post
    No I meant that Philbin would step down from the HC job and take the GM job
    That's a complicated situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by godolphins View Post
    That's a complicated situation
    Idk I just see it happening and they bring in some one from the Philbin tree to be head coach or maybe see Kevin COyle, but anyways its just something my dad brought up

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildPhins10 View Post
    No I meant that Philbin would step down from the HC job and take the GM job
    I'm pretty sure this is not going to happen since this is the exact reason we didn't want to hire Jeff Fisher. Its no good having a HC/GM. If we wanted to do it, Ross would have hired Fisher on the spot and dumped Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CeltBruinSoxFan View Post
    I'm pretty sure this is not going to happen since this is the exact reason we didn't want to hire Jeff Fisher. Its no good having a HC/GM. If we wanted to do it, Ross would have hired Fisher on the spot and dumped Ireland.
    Fisher wanted to be HC/GM at the same time I'm saying I can see Philbin being our GM in the future and someone else will be coach... but nvm it was a convo me and my dad were having

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrench View Post
    Marc Ross, Director of College Scouting, New York Giants
    Eric DeCosta, Assistant General Manager, Baltimore Ravens
    Mike Maccagnan, Director of College Scouting, Houston Texans
    Brian Gutekunst, Director of College Scouting, Green Bay Packers
    Omar Khan, Director of Football and Business Administration, Pittsburgh Steelers


    All good choices.
    Eric DeCosta isn't going anywhere:
    Eric DeCosta, one of the most sought-after general manager candidates, has decided to stay with the Baltimore Ravens, the team said Friday.

    The Colts, Rams and Bears all had requested permission to speak to DeCosta, the Ravens' director of player personnel. But DeCosta chose not to interview with other teams.
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/74...jobs-elsewhere
    And I doubt Philbin would poach one of the Packers scouts (Brian Gutekunst).

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    Ireland is 17th on the power rankings
    That sounds about right.
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    -Pat Kirwan from an article he wrote in 2008

    Dear Mr. Pat Kirwan,

    Bill Parcells did not turn around the Miami Dolphins. The 1-15 season and the 11-5 season were both flukes. We are still the same mediocre team we were before we hired Cam Cameron and Bill Parcells. Please tell all your media buddies to quit saying BP turn this team around. He did not. BP is over rated and the game passed him by 20 years ago. I said this before we hired him and after we hired him.
    The media was in love with Parcells when he came here. Now they're all blaming Ireland for the mess Parcells left behind.

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    Exactly, can we get a ban on *****ing and moaning about trading BM please.
    They're also forgetting that we went 6-10 with Marshall.

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    I am pro-Ireland as well. They guy needed his space from Parcells to be able to start to work for himself. I like Philbin and I like the way he teaches guys to play the game. Ireland and Philbin have to stay for atleast another 2 years until its time to say this rebuild is a joke.
    This past draft, Ireland made alot of damn good picks for the future, as well as trades for the future. This past draft was atleast a 'B' for him. Granted Cunningham and Kaddu are misses and Egnew (so far) is a miss in the 3rd. But we have a solid foundation to start from. He was finally able to draft a 1st rd QB. And now that Parcells isn't leading the charge, he is finally able to start to draft players for this egenration of football. No more huge, bulky guys.
    I'm all in with Ireland next year. Lets see what the guy does with 5 picks in the top 100 of the draft as well as a (hopefully) boatload of cap space.

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